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  1. #1 How well do you understand the health care law? Take the quiz, compare your results 
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    The health reform law promises to deliver big changes in the U.S. health care system. But, as with other sweeping pieces of legislation, it can be hard to get the real facts about what it does. And it is all too easy for misinformation about the law to spread.

    Take our short, 10-question quiz to test your knowledge of the law, and then find out how you compare to the rest of the country, as represented by the findings of the Kaiser Family Foundation's monthly Health Tracking Poll.

    http://healthreform.kff.org/quizzes/...form-quiz.aspx


    You answered 9 out of 10 questions correctly, better than 97% of Americans.
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    Do you know what push-polling is? Because I answered the questions based on "what makes Obamacare sound good to a liberal" and got 8/10
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    Quote Originally Posted by m00 View Post
    Do you know what push-polling is? Because I answered the questions based on "what makes Obamacare sound good to a liberal" and got 8/10
    I got 7 out of 10 the same way. I made the mistake of being honest on three of them




    2. Will the health reform law allow a government panel to make decisions about end-of-life care for people on Medicare? No, the law will not do this. You answered "Yes, the law will do this."No such panels exist. While early versions of the law did contain provisions that would allow Medicare to reimburse physicians for voluntary discussions with patients about end-of-life, these provisions were dropped from the final legislation. 45%
    I answered that it would do that, because there is a death panel. It's called the Independent Payment Advisory Board, and it functions as the rationing authority for Medicare, and it is Obama's stated intent to expand it to cover all health care.



    3. Will the health reform law cut benefits that were previously provided to all people on Medicare? No, the law will not do this. You answered "Yes, the law will do this."No. The law reduces payments to the privately administered Medicare Advantage plans, but they will still be required to provide all benefits that are covered by traditional Medicare.
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    Guess what: If you reduce payments to privately administered plans, but require that they provide the same benefits as before, you will end up cutting benefits as the providers go bankrupt. This is another BS question.

    10. Will the health reform law allow undocumented immigrants to receive financial help from the government to buy health insurance? No, the law will not do this. You answered "Yes, the law will do this."No. Undocumented immigrants are not eligible to receive financial help from the government to buy health insurance, nor are they eligible for Medicaid or to purchase insurance with their own money in the new Exchanges. 42%


    They're also not supposed to be able to work in the US, get drivers' licences or collect AFDC. And since the taxpayer already picks up the tab for illegals (undocumented=illegals), the new law doesn't prevent them from getting help from the government. In fact, since many illegals get welfare, the government is providing them with the means to buy health insurance already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post

    Wei, your mendacity continues to be a source of amusement.
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    The questions didn't get into the 'nuts and bolts' areas that I'm interested in. And, those writing it must not have heard the recent supreme court ruling about there being no fines, but a tax.

    Still, it was easy enough if one followed the party line.
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    Who is the genius who wrote this quiz? Even congress, according to Pelosi, doesn't know what's in it, how could we?
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    Rarely does something in DC ever work like they said it would or cost as much.... please spare me your bullshit quiz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
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    Yeah, he's like a mosquito bite that you get a bit of relief from by scratching, but at the same time, it would be better not to have been bitten at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Who is the genius who wrote this quiz? Even congress, according to Pelosi, doesn't know what's in it, how could we?
    The point is not to establish what the law is or how well it (won't) work but to convince the o worshipers that it's all ok and the public loves him and will vote for him in spite of all the lies that he and his minions spew daily.

    If paid enough I could concoct a poll that would show that 97% of the US citizens would prefer takeover of the US by China - tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    The health reform law promises to deliver big changes in the U.S. health care system. But, as with other sweeping pieces of legislation, it can be hard to get the real facts about what it does. And it is all too easy for misinformation about the law to spread.

    Take our short, 10-question quiz to test your knowledge of the law, and then find out how you compare to the rest of the country, as represented by the findings of the Kaiser Family Foundation's monthly Health Tracking Poll.

    http://healthreform.kff.org/quizzes/...form-quiz.aspx
    You know, for a guy who claims to hate this legislation, you spend an awful lot of time defending it. Why is that?

    BTW, here's a bit of perspective on just why we oppose this atrocity, courtesy of National Review:

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    The Top Ten Worst Things in Obamacare


    By Grace-Marie Turner
    June 28, 2012 5:17 P.M.

    “We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it.”
    — Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, March 2010
    Now, all the rest of us are going to find out a lot more about what’s in the 2,700-page health overhaul law.
    The president now must spend the next four months defending a law that the majority of Americans dislike, and the more they learn about it, the more they dislike it. Worse, the part of the law that is the least popular — the individual mandate — has now been declared a tax.


    That’s double jeopardy for the president: The unpopular mandate stands, and it is called a tax. (And this is only one of the 20 new and higher taxes in the law.) Either the president admits it’s a tax as a way of keeping the law on the books, or he says that the Supreme Court is wrong, that it’s not a tax, in which case his law would be invalid.
    It’s important to note that the Court did not “uphold Obamacare.” Two specific provisions were being challenged before the Court — the individual mandate and the Medicaid expansion. If either had been struck, then the Court could have decided whether or not to take down the whole law.


    Instead, it reached a very narrow decision. The individual mandate is valid as a tax, says the Court. Now, otherwise free citizens will be required to spend our own personal, after-tax money to purchase an expensive private product — $20,000 a year for an average family — or pay a tax. And the Court said the federal government can tell states to dramatically expand their Medicaid programs but that they can’t be coerced with the threat of losing all of their federal Medicaid money if they refuse.


    So let’s get ready for the debate. About seven in ten Americans had told pollsters they wanted the Supreme Court to strike down all or part of the health overhaul law. Since it didn’t do that, we all must be armed with the facts as the battles continue at least into November so the voters can issue the final verdict.


    Here’s a quick checklist of the ten worst things in the law — in addition to the individual and Medicaid mandates:
    1. Employer mandate. Most companies will have to provide and pay for expensive government-determined health insurance for their employees or face federal fines.


    2. Anti-conscience mandate. Religious organizations will be required to provide free sterilization, contraceptives, and abortion-inducing drugs to their employees, even if it violates their religious beliefs.


    3. New and higher taxes.The law contains at least 20 new taxes totaling $500 billion that will hit medical innovators, health insurance, and even the sale of your home.


    4. The Independent Payment Advisory Board. IPAB will still stand, with its rationing power over Medicare.


    5. State exchanges. States will be compelled to set up vast new bureaucracies to check into our finances and families so they can hand out generous taxpayer subsidies for health insurance to families earning up to $90,000 a year.


    6. Medicare payment cuts. $575 billion in payment reductions to Medicare providers and Medicare Advantage plans will cause more and more physicians to stop seeing Medicare patients, exacerbating access problems.


    7. Higher health-care costs. The Kaiser Family Foundation says the average price of a family policy has risen by $2,200 during the Obama administration. The president promised premiums would be $2,500 lower by this year. Hospitals, doctors, businesses, and consumers all expect their taxes and health costs to rise under Obamacare.


    8. Government control over doctor decisions.Value-based payments, quality reporting requirements, and government comparative-effectiveness boards will dictate how doctors practice medicine. Nearly half of all physicians are seriously considering leaving practice, leading to a severe doctor shortage.


    9. Huge deficits. The CBO has raised its cost estimate for the law to $1.76 trillion over ten years, but that is only the opening bid as more and more people lose their job-based coverage and flood into taxpayer-subsidized insurance. At this rate, the cost will be $2 trillion, not the less than $1 trillion the president promised.


    10. 159 new boards, agencies, and programs: The Obama administration will work quickly to set up as many of the law’s new bureaucracies as fast as it can so they can take root before the election.


    The November elections are the last hope — we must elect a Congress and a president committed to repealing Obamacare. They, and all of us, will need to be armed with the facts to explain to the American people exactly what is in this monstrous law.



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