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  1. #1 DHS Labels Liberty-Lovers as Potential Terrorists 
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    DHS Labels Liberty-Lovers as Potential Terrorists

    By the Department of Homeland Security’s standards, anyone who just celebrated the Fourth of July can be capable of terrorism. A new study by the DHS states that “those who are reverent of individual liberty” may promote terrorism.

    WND.com reports:

    The study and related data were recently produced by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism, or START, at the University of Maryland. START was launched with a $12 million grant from DHS and is recognized by the organization as one of its “Centers for Excellence.” In December, DHS announced it was renewing START’s funding with another $3.6 million.

    The study, entitled “Hot Spots of Terrorism and Other Crimes in the United States, 1970-2008,” makes a number of observations, including that one third of all terrorist attacks between 1970 and 2008 took place in five metropolitan counties run by Democrats. The report breaks down the terrorist attacks between the counties, and separates them according to lists based on ideologies, ranging from right-wing and left-wing to religious and single issue.

    START defines “left-wing” as anyone who wants “to bring about change through violent revolution rather than through established political process. This category also includes secular left-wing groups that rely heavily on terrorism to overthrow the capitalist system and either establish ‘a dictatorship of the proletariat’ (Maxist-Leninists) or, much more rarely, a decentralized, non-hierarchical political system (anarchists).”

    It defines “right-wing” as one who “believes that one’s personal and/or national ‘way of life’ is under attack and is either already lost or that the threat is imminent.” It states that right-wing terrorists include those who revere liberty and are suspicious of a centralized government.

    It also defines potential terrorists as those interested in forcing religion into the political sphere and and those opposed to abortion. WND notes, “This is not the first time a government report has listed conservative groups such as evangelical Christians and tea-party members as potential terrorists.”

    A 2009 DHS security report issued harsh warnings against unnamed right-wing terrorists, which the DHS defined as those who were opposed to abortion, and were concerned about illegal immigration, an increase in federal power, firearms restrictions, and a loss of American sovereignty. >>>

    Americans for Legal Immigration stated, “Police were instructed to look for Americans who were concerned about unemployment, taxes, illegal immigration, gangs, border security, abortion, high costs of living, gun restrictions, FEMA, the IRS, The Federal Reserve, and the North American Union/SPP/North American Community. >>>

    The FBI’s Communities Against Terrorism program labels those who purchase food in bulk as possible terrorists, as well as those who use cash to purchase items and show interest in using the Internet in public places. >>>

    But while the report identifies seemingly average Americans as potential terrorists, it completely ignores any references to Islamic terrorism. In fact, its table displaying the “hot spots” for religious terrorism indicates that there was no such terrorism in New York City in the 1990s — totally disregarding the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in that city.

    PJ Media also observes that the report conveniently leaves out the 1994 shooting by admitted anti-Semite Rashid Baz that resulted in the death of 16-year-old Jewish student Ari Halberstam and the attempted murder of dozens more on the Brooklyn Bridge. Baz admitted he shot Halberstam because he was Jewish.

    It also ignores the 2002 shooting at the El Al (Israel's national airline) ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport by Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, who murdered two and wounded four others. Hadayet was later confirmed by the FBI and DOJ to be an Egyptian terrorist who wanted to be a Muslim martyr.

    WND also notes, “By cutting the report off at 2007, it was able to omit events such as the Fort Hood massacre by Maj. Nidal Hasan, who killed 13 people and wounded 29 others, and the Little Rock Army recruiting center, where a Muslim convert shot soldiers in front of a recruiting office.”

    Critics note that this new DHS study is yet another example of political correctness run amok, as patriotic Americans are unfairly labeled as terrorist threats even as legitimate threats go unmentioned.

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    I suppose these views are not really anything new for the National Socialist Democrat Party. Just coming into better focus. Funny, I always thought that a distinguishing feature of real "Terrorists" is that they are willing to attack innocent civilians. And maybe its just me, but I would tend to suspect that should things actually become bellicose the 'Liberty-Lovers' would more likely chose government types over tax payers as targets, second amendment being what it is and all that.
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    The report also lumps all Islamic terror acts under the general topic of religiously inspired terrorism, so if one Christian attacked an abortion clinic and twenty Muslims attacked Jews or Christians, there are 21 religiously inspired terror acts, and religion is to blame, not any particular religion.
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    If one reads between the lines, the purpose of DHS is not to deal with Islamic terrorists at all.

    It's to deal with anyone who does not lie down and take being dispossessed, unemployed, morally neutered, and stripped of rights.

    In other words, DHS was invented to handle Americans. This is why the TSA molests average Americans, including small children, at the airport instead of profiling Middle Eastern terrorists.
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  4. #4 Bob Barr: Feds Determined to Label Conservatives “Thought Criminals” 
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    Bob Barr: Feds Determined to Label Conservatives “Thought Criminals”

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    Former Congressman labels ‘liberty lovers are terrorists’ study “frightening,” “bizarre,” “insidious”
    Paul Joseph Watson

    Tuesday, July 10, 2012

    Former Congressman Bob Barr has slammed as “frightening,” “bizarre,” and “insidious” a new study funded by the Department of Homeland Security with lists ‘liberty lovers’ as right-wing terrorists, noting that the federal government is determined to re-define legitimate political beliefs as thought crimes...

    ...Former Georgia Congressman and staunch liberty advocate Bob Barr responded to the story by warning that it provides a “frightening” and “bizarre” example of how “government officials seem to have become increasingly distrustful of individual liberty.”

    Barr pointed to a previous document produced by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) which listed his own supporters, as well as Ron Paul voters and people who display political bumper stickers as potential terrorists, to illustrate how framing constitutionalists and conservatives as extremist radicals is a disturbing meme being circulated by the political class.
    “The report may appear innocuous, but it is not. It offers a carefully scripted but insidious analysis of Americans who happen to hold certain philosophical or political views, many of which are common among conservatives and libertarians,” writes Barr, quoting the Infowars story which highlighted how the study was all part of the “rush to denounce legitimate political beliefs as thought crimes.”


    “It is deeply disturbing that the executive branch of our federal government continues to demonize and delegitimize political beliefs, particularly those challenging the “conventional wisdom” or the status quo. It is even more distressing that neither the U.S. House of Representatives nor the Senate has moved to put a stop to such efforts, which they could if their members possessed the understanding and the backbone to do so,” concludes Barr....
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    It is kind of amazing. The assault of this nations political class/ leaders on the very people that stringently defend our way of life. And we all see it. We see the "death by a thousand cuts". We conservatives see "the frog gradually being brought to a boil". Many of us do. Unfortunately some of us (conservatives) are also too busy to give it much thought. It is easier to ignore because ... why in the world would our government be against individual liberty and prosperity? Why would it seemingly want to "join the world community" in the type of governance that has differentiated us from them for over 2 centuries now? History is rather clear about what has worked and what has not insofar as liberty vs statism or tyranny. And yet... here we go again.

    The enemy within the gates continues its assault within the halls of power they have been elected to. Oftentimes by fraudulent means. Its so common place now we scarcely notice it. And the media colludes to hide or mischaracterize its existence to enpower these statists in their ascension. The very thing the media was supposed to guard against. Thus they use the protections, the guarantees they enjoy in the Constitution/ Bill of Rights as leverage against us. So they (the statists and the media) use our own laws, our "rights" and our freedoms against us. And if we sit up and take notice, we're labeled as extremists. Or conspiratists. Or worse. And one of the unfortunate damning things is that some on our own side appear to take that view too... or they remain silent.

    The frontiers of ignorance and apathy may win the day. It really is easier to be counted "among the sheeple". And not "make waves" so as to call attention to ourselves. Thank God the founders and the signators of the Declaration of Independance were not of this "mindset". Perhaps its a moot point. Perhaps its too late. Or the begining of the end. We have to win majoritys in the House and the Senate now and fill them with conservatives AND take the White House or... it is indeed all over. Thats how serious it is. WE the diligent must make up for the sheeple who persist on "whistling dixie" or we may as well get used to the sheeple mindset. The shackles. The "thought control". Because this is our next destination if we dont. We must replenish the halls of power with conservatives with some backbone or the bureaucracy alone will finish us and swallow us whole.

    So why do voters continue to trust politicians after all this? Anyways they (the old media and the political class) must silence the "Paul and Paulette Reveres". And it seems to me, they are doing a bang up job of it. The exposing of this sort of thing used to be the "duty" of the media. Now, the guard rails are gone and it is left to us.
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    I'm sure Snopes will debunk this one too. They'll say probably not true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    I'm sure Snopes will debunk this one too. They'll say probably not true.
    Is it true that Snopes is backed by Soros money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    Is it true that Snopes is backed by Soros money?
    I've never traced it myself but Glenn back has and he says they receive Soros money, I'm sure they would deny it though.
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    “Police were instructed to look for Americans who were concerned about unemployment, taxes, illegal immigration, gangs, border security, abortion, high costs of living, gun restrictions, FEMA, the IRS, The Federal Reserve, and the North American Union/SPP/North American Community".
    While he's not concerned about all of them, I'm pretty sure the President of the United States is concerned about most of them. Lock him up!!!111!1!1

    At least the article stated the obvious:

    The Left "wants to bring about change through violent revolution" while the Right prefers to do it through the political process.
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    Just a quick comment about infowars.com .. it's run by Alex Jones who is a 9/11 truther, and all around bat-crap crazy guy. I googled Bob Barr because I don't know much about him and saw nothing about what the above article claims. When you google 'Congressman labels ‘liberty lovers are terrorists’ study “frightening,” “bizarre,” “insidious”' all you get are Alex Jones and wacky left sites.

    As far as Barr talking about the feds wanting to label us as thought criminals, I could believe that.. he is a libertarian after all.
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