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    That's a comment from my favorite Drudge pick of the day:

    http://www.religionnews.com/culture/...ssment-problem

    Do atheists have a sexual harassment problem?


    (RNS) As skeptics, atheists and humanists prepare to gather for their largest meeting in Las Vegas this weekend, attendance by women is expected to be down significantly.

    Officials for The Amazing Meeting, or TAM, said Wednesday (July 11) that women would make up 31 percent of the 1,200 conference attendees, down from 40 percent the year before. A month before the conference, pre-registration was only 18 percent women, organizers said.

    The explanations are many -- the bad economy, that women, as caregivers, are less able to get away, and that more men than women identify as skeptics, whose worldview rejects the supernatural and focuses on science and rationality.

    But in the weeks preceding TAM, another possible explanation has roiled the nontheist community. Online forums have crackled with charges of sexism in TAM’s leadership and calls for the ouster of D.J. Grothe, the male president of the James Randi Educational Foundation, TAM’s organizer. In June, Rebecca Watson, a skeptic blogger and speaker, canceled her TAM appearance because, she said on her blog, she does “not feel welcome or safe.”

    Other nontheists -- both male and female -- have shared stories of unwanted sexual attention at nontheist gatherings, including propositions for sex and unwelcome touching. Chatter has ranged from calls for more women to attend nontheist events to personal attacks on prominent female skeptics for discussing harassment. Meanwhile, two more skeptic/feminist bloggers announced they will not attend TAM....

    This is not the first time the skeptic community has struggled with sexual harassment charges.

    Last year, at another skeptic conference, Watson said she was approached late at night in an elevator by a man she believed was seeking sex. When she blogged about it, the “atheosphere” erupted in comments, both supportive and negative. British biologist Richard Dawkins, the best-selling author of “The God Delusion,” wrote that Watson should “stop whining” and “grow a thicker skin.”

    The current hullabaloo can be traced to May’s Women in Secularism Conference, a first-of-its-kind gathering about nontheist women. On a panel examining feminism and nontheism, Jennifer McCreight, an atheist blogger, said women speakers at nontheist events warn each other privately about male speakers who make unwanted sexual advances.....


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    Asking someone to have sex with you isn't sexual harassment, asking them again after they've made it clear they aren't interested is. I suspect this is a mixture of a real problem and the hyperbolic drama of feminazis trying to assert their power in the manner that redbitchqueen, seabeyond, and a few other all-heterosexual-intercourse-is-rape thinkers over at DU try to exercise over their fellow DUmmies from time to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumbAss Tanker View Post
    Asking someone to have sex with you isn't sexual harassment, asking them again after they've made it clear they aren't interested is. I suspect this is a mixture of a real problem and the hyperbolic drama of feminazis trying to assert their power in the manner that redbitchqueen, seabeyond, and a few other all-heterosexual-intercourse-is-rape thinkers over at DU try to exercise over their fellow DUmmies from time to time.

    Agreed. Sexual harrassment has to have a certain level of manipulation involved by one person who has some type of power over the other. Or it has to be crude and constant, to the point that it distracts from the work environment.

    There's a big difference between a male boss telling me "You look lovely today" and "You look hot today".
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    So is your theory that non-theists are worse people because they do not have a higher power to be held accountable to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Generation Why? View Post
    So is your theory that non-theists are worse people because they do not have a higher power to be held accountable to?
    Whose "theory?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    Whose "theory?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Generation Why? View Post
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    Where are Elspeth's words?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    Where are Elspeth's words?
    From the original post: "Do atheists have a sexual harassment problem?"

    Are you implying that because atheists, non-theists, and skeptics do not believe in a higher power that they are worse people and have a "sexual harrasment problem"?

    And an apology to Elspeth, they were not their words but the words in the article. Furthermore, every group has their issues in every aspect of crime for the most part. Atheists have as much of a sexual harrasment problem as Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Generation Why? View Post
    From the original post: "Do atheists have a sexual harassment problem?"

    Are you implying that because atheists, non-theists, and skeptics do not believe in a higher power that they are worse people and have a "sexual harrasment problem"?

    And an apology to Elspeth, they were not their words but the words in the article. Furthermore, every group has their issues in every aspect of crime for the most part. Atheists have as much of a sexual harrasment problem as Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc etc.
    If you took your head out of your ass long enough to actually have clicked on the link you'd see that those words belong to the author of the article, Kimberly Winston. So next time actually take time to check out the link provided before spouting off like an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    If you took your head out of your ass long enough to actually have clicked on the link you'd see that those words belong to the author of the article, Kimberly Winston. So next time actually take time to check out the link provided before spouting off like an idiot.
    I pointed that out in the post you just quoted.
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