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    In the past several weeks as much of the nation suffered under a massive heatwave, global warming-obsessed media depicted the high temperatures as evidence of Nobel laureate Al Gore's favorite money-making scam.

    A new study published in the journal Nature Sunday completely debunks all previous claims that temperatures in recent decades are in any way historic demonstrating instead that things were much hotter on this planet during Roman times:

    Here, we present new evidence based on maximum latewood density data from northern Scandinavia, indicating that this cooling trend was stronger (−0.31 C per 1,000 years, 0.03 C) than previously reported, and demonstrate that this signature is missing in published tree-ring proxy records. The long-term trend now revealed in maximum latewood density data is in line with coupled general circulation models indicating albedo-driven feedback mechanisms and substantial summer cooling over the past two millennia in northern boreal and Arctic latitudes. These findings, together with the missing orbital signature in published dendrochronological records, suggest that large-scale near-surface air-temperature reconstructionsrelying on tree-ring data may underestimate pre-instrumental temperatures including warmth during Medieval and Roman times.
    The website of Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz published a more reader-friendly explanation of the study Monday:

    Professor Dr. Jan Esper's group at the Institute of Geography at JGU used tree-ring density measurements from sub-fossil pine trees originating from Finnish Lapland to produce a reconstruction reaching back to 138 BC. In so doing, the researchers have been able for the first time to precisely demonstrate that the long-term trend over the past two millennia has been towards climatic cooling. "We found that previous estimates of historical temperatures during the Roman era and the Middle Ages were too low," says Esper. "Such findings are also significant with regard to climate policy, as they will influence the way today's climate changes are seen in context of historical warm periods." [...]
    For the first time, researchers have now been able to use the data derived from tree-rings to precisely calculate a much longer-term cooling trend that has been playing out over the past 2,000 years. Their findings demonstrate that this trend involves a cooling of -0.3C per millennium due to gradual changes to the position of the sun and an increase in the distance between the Earth and the sun.

    "This figure we calculated may not seem particularly significant," says Esper. "However, it is also not negligible when compared to global warming, which up to now has been less than 1C. Our results suggest that the large-scale climate reconstruction shown by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) likely underestimate this long-term cooling trend over the past few millennia."

    The UK Register observed Tuesday:

    Americans sweltering in the recent record-breaking heatwave may not believe it - but it seems that our ancestors suffered through much hotter summers in times gone by, several of them within the last 2,000 years.

    A new study measuring temperatures over the past two millennia has concluded that in fact the temperatures seen in the last decade are far from being the hottest in history.
    Here's a nice little graph to demonstrate what's really happened in the past 2,000 years:


    This thoroughly debunks the claim that temperatures on the planet today are in any way historic or unprecedented.

    The Register continued:

    In the IPCC view, the planet was cooler during Roman times and the medieval warm spell. Overall the temperature is headed up - perhaps wildly up, according to the famous/infamous "hockey stick" graph.

    The new study indicates that that's quite wrong, with the current warming less serious than the Romans and others since have seen - and the overall trend actually down by a noticeable 0.3C per millennium, which the scientists believe is probably down to gradual long-term shifts in the position of the Sun and the Earth's path around it.
    Just as many climate realists have been saying for years.

    The only question remaining is whether America's global warming-obsessed media will pay any attention to this new information.

    Stay tuned.
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    Wei will be here any moment admitting he was wrong about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    Wei will be here any moment admitting he was wrong about this.
    That's what I figure. Won't it be great for me? To be the one who turned 3wees all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
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    1. How does this "thoroughly debunk global warming"? here's some information: http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    How does this study thoroughly debunk the theory?

    2. Why do right-wingers accept this science, which is based on indirect measurments of temperature from hundreds/ thousands of years ago, but outright reject other data? When data is presented addressing CO2 levels obtained from ice cores over the last several millenniums, it is simply rejected because "no one was there making measurements 2000 years ago", but when data from tree rings is used to extrapolate data from 2000 years ago, it's immediately accepted as fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    1. How does this "thoroughly debunk global warming"? here's some information: http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    How does this study thoroughly debunk the theory?

    2. Why do right-wingers accept this science, which is based on indirect measurments of temperature from hundreds/ thousands of years ago, but outright reject other data? When data is presented addressing CO2 levels obtained from ice cores over the last several millenniums, it is simply rejected because "no one was there making measurements 2000 years ago", but when data from tree rings is used to extrapolate data from 2000 years ago, it's immediately accepted as fact.
    Answer every point of the article fact by fact and disprove it Wei, What would the prophet Algore say (praise be his name) about this heresy, this blasphemy against thy mother earth, I close with those famous words by a man known as carbon big footprint Algore: "the playnet has a feever"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    1. How does this "thoroughly debunk global warming"? here's some information: http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    How does this study thoroughly debunk the theory?

    Theories are based on interpretations of data. A theory is not "truth"; it is merely a philosophical matrix that seems to best (and most "elegantly") fit the data at any given time. Theories can be controversial or not, depending upon the (very subjective) consensus of scientists.

    There are two ways to challenge a theory: challenge its internal logic (including any pre-existing prejudices or assumptions) or challenge its data (including the methods by which that data is collected and analyzed). In the case of the global warming fraud, the German study challenged the data:

    For the first time, researchers have now been able to use the data derived from tree-rings to precisely calculate a much longer-term cooling trend that has been playing out over the past 2,000 years. Their findings demonstrate that this trend involves a cooling of -0.3C per millennium due to gradual changes to the position of the sun and an increase in the distance between the Earth and the sun.

    "This figure we calculated may not seem particularly significant," says Esper. "However, it is also not negligible when compared to global warming, which up to now has been less than 1C. Our results suggest that the large-scale climate reconstruction shown by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) likely underestimate this long-term cooling trend over the past few millennia."

    These results demonstrate that the minor temperature rise that has caused Al Gore's apoplectic crusade is being offset by a cooling trend. In other words, there is no long term heating of the world requiring everyone to go back to the Stone age or, even, buy a Prius.

    I am glad to see hard data coming out on this. I have enough tree rings myself to remember previous worldwide environmental scares: global cooling (1970s), hole in the ozone (1970s/80s), global warming (1990s/00s) and now "climate change." In my personal opinion, there is someone or some group working damned hard to reduce worldwide standards of living by panicking everyone.

    Oh, and an interesting article to read:

    Climate Change: Is the Carbon Tax the Death of Democracy?

    On July 1st 2012, Australia joined nations around the world in their move towards a carbon economy through the implementation of a Carbon Tax, which will become an Emissions Trading Scheme in 2015. Yet the underpinning justification for this move, the science behind man-made global warming, is not even close to being settled. In fact, an increasingly large body of scientists and researchers are telling us the exact opposite of what the United Nations and governments around the world would have us believe. It is now evident that the science behind man-made global warming that dictates government policy is false, manipulated and corrupt and exists solely to meet a pre-determined political agenda whilst attempting to pass it off as credible science.

    Central to this article is the role of the United Nations. Their treaties, summits and bodies have been responsible for providing the framework and political will that has moved the ‘environmental movement’ to where it is today.

    This article seeks to go into more depth into current day science which overwhelmingly suggests that global warming is not caused by human Carbon Dioxide emissions. Furthermore, I will outline the role of key players on the international stage that have worked tirelessly to convince us otherwise.

    Finally, I will begin to look in more depth at what the Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) is and where it actually originated. As the article progresses it will become clearer that the Carbon Tax and Emissions Trading Scheme do absolutely nothing for the environment. Given this is the pretext used by governments for introducing carbon economy, I will attempt to convey some deeper social, political and economic influences at work here. In doing so, I hope to assist in understanding the reasons why we are moving towards a carbon economy and how this global movement abolishes our inalienable rights as human beings and basic freedoms – most of which many of us take for granted.
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    All you have to do is talk to Michael Mann and ask him about the 'Hockey Stick Scandal' to find out that global warming is a fraud.

    Some here who know me from the Cave know that I had Mann for an introduction to Meteorology class at Penn State. And, yes, he is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeEDay View Post

    Some here who know me from the Cave know that I had Mann for an introduction to Meteorology class at Penn State. And, yes, he is an idiot.
    Do tell!
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