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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn View Post
    Now, I'm no expert, but I'm fairly confident that if you're sleeping with women that kinda disqualifies you from being gay.
    Oh, but it wouldn't prevent a person from engaging in homosexual behavior now would it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CactusCarlos View Post
    Oh, but it wouldn't prevent a person from engaging in homosexual behavior now would it?
    The answer to your question is manifest in the porn industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn View Post
    The answer to your question is manifest in the porn industry.
    And in prison. So, no one is born gay they choose to be engage in homosexual behavior and refer to themselves as gay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CactusCarlos View Post
    And in prison. So, no one is born gay they choose to be engage in homosexual behavior and refer to themselves as gay.
    And? I'm not seeing a point here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CactusCarlos View Post
    And in prison. So, no one is born gay they choose to be engage in homosexual behavior and refer to themselves as gay.
    We don't know that no one is born gay, only that in some cases, it is a learned behavior. There may be a genetic predisposition, but genes alone do not determine behavior. Calhoun's study on overcrowding showed that at a certain critical mass, sexual behaviors became increasingly chaotic, resulting in greater incidence of homosexuality, among other tendencies. (http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/...en/index.html#):


    In a 1962 edition of Scientific American, the ecologist John B Calhoun presented the results of a macabre series of experiments conducted at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH).1 He had placed several rats in a laboratory in a converted barn where – protected from disease and predation and supplied with food, water and bedding – they bred rapidly. The one thing they were lacking was space, a fact that became increasingly problematic as what he liked to describe as his “rat city” and “rodent utopia” teemed with animals. Unwanted social contact occurred with increasing frequency, leading to increased stress and aggression. Following the work of the physiologist, Hans Selye, it seemed that the adrenal system offered the standard binary solution: fight or flight.2 But in the sealed enclosure, flight was impossible. Violence quickly spiralled out of control. Cannibalism and infanticide followed. Males became hypersexual, pansexual and, an increasing proportion, homosexual. Calhoun called this vortex “a behavioural sink”. Their numbers fell into terminal decline and the population tailed off to extinction. At the experiments’ end, the only animals still alive had survived at an immense psychological cost: asexual and utterly withdrawn, they clustered in a vacant huddled mass. Even when reintroduced to normal rodent communities, these “socially autistic” animals remained isolated until death. In the words of one of Calhoun’s collaborators, rodent “utopia” had descended into “hell”.3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn View Post
    The answer to your question is manifest in the porn industry.
    From what I read on the subject a lot of straight men star in gay porn for the money. So i guess its a choice after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
    From what I read on the subject a lot of straight men star in gay porn for the money. So i guess its a choice after all.
    That is a bit of an odd subject matter to be reading isn't? Is there something you want to tell us Bailey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
    From what I read on the subject a lot of straight men star in gay porn for the money. So i guess its a choice after all.
    Yes, straight men can and do engage is same sex encounters and still continue to identify as straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CactusCarlos View Post
    And in prison. So, no one is born gay they choose to be engage in homosexual behavior and refer to themselves as gay.
    I'm not sure I want to crawl into their heads and claim I know why they do what they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn View Post
    Can you back that claim up with any evidence or is it merely an assumption?
    Unless you are naive, it is pretty much an accomplishment for the gays and the lesbians when they "flip" a straight person. Perhaps you live in a cave, or you don't know any gays.
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