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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    *facepalm* They are calling this domestic terrorism and yet they refused to call Nadal's shooting an act of domestic terrorism.
    Nidal's shooting was an act of war. He targeted military personnel on behalf of al Qaeda. That's not so much terrorism as treason. This is an important distinction, because terrorism is indiscriminate in its targets. Anyone is acceptable, so long as the political cause is advanced.
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    I will try to rationalize it the way Beckel does. Most people view the old Nazi movement as Fascist which was considered the opposite of Communist. Plus you add the concept that many racist, especially in the south, are right leaning. With thaat said, iw ill not venture a guess of left or right leaning. His hatred of other racists can be seen as right leaning. But being associated with a racist group doesn't necessarily make one a Nazi. That and modern American racists are kind of stupid outside of the obvious. Either way, this Page guy was a prick. That is bad enough.
    The Nazis were an offshoot of the left. If you actually read Mein Kampf, you see that Hitler's economic program was socialist. He disdained Marxism because Marx had a Jewish background, but Hitler's hatred of Jews, like Marx's hatred of Jews, was based on his hatred of capitalism. Both of them shared a romantic view of labor and soil, and saw entrepreneurs as parasitical. The reason that the Nazis became associated with the right was that the COMINTERN, at Stalin's orders, began referring to them as fascists, and barred any reference to their socialist policies. You can see this in the communist literature of the 1930s, when the Nazis and Italian fascists were the enemy in Spain, but then became socialists again after the Molotov/Von Ribbentrop pact, and then became fascists again after the invasion of Russia. The conceptual alignment of fascism with the right was pure propaganda, and it was extremely effective.
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