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    Quote Originally Posted by Janice View Post
    Absolutely. Meanwhile we have been privy to witness that all three branches of government have been compromised and have strayed far beyond the original intent of the framers. This government has virtually perpetuated its own elite ruling class.

    Holder is emboldened by precedent. Janet Reno was guilty of wholesale obstruction of justice and unprecedented corruption, and John Ashcroft let her go. Holder saw her get away with it, and now he expects the same.

    The guard rails are almost gone. Most of this would not have been possible w/o a (more or less) supportive opposition party in congress. Just 4 more years ...
    Scary huh? This is why I say "keep your powder dry." There is a reason they want to steal all the guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    "I pardon you for a crime that you haven't been convicted of but you most likely will be". Has it ever been done?

    And yes, my Innerwebz Search is broken.
    Yes, it has.

    Iran-Contra affair

    Though he claims to have been opposed to the sale on principle, Weinberger participated in the transfer of United States TOW anti-tank missiles to Iranduring the Iran–Contra affair. By 1987, the disclosure of the Iran-Contra Affair and increasing difficulties with Defense budgets weighed on Weinberger. Weinberger resigned on November 23, 1987, citing his wife's declining health. He specifically denied that he was opposed to the INF Treaty, scheduled to be signed in Washington in December 1987. In fact, he took credit for proposing the substance of the treaty early in his term at the Pentagon.
    Following his resignation as Secretary of Defense, legal proceedings against Weinberger were brought by Independent Counsel Lawrence E. Walsh. A federal grand jury indicted Weinberger on two counts of perjury and one count of obstruction of justice on June 16, 1992.[7] He was defended by defense attorney Carl Rauh. Weinberger received a Presidential pardon from George H. W. Bush on December 24, 1992.[8]

    Walsh was prosecuting Weinberger at a point where he had not achieved any results, and was looking to force a plea by threatening to bankrupt him with legal costs.

    Even if the civil suit goes through, the court order has to be executed by the Executive Branch, and we all know how that will go. Obama will not enforce it and the media will not report it. The best that we can hope for is for Romney to raise this issue in the debates and force Obama to address it in a public forum.
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