Also, both Christianity and Judaism have traditional separations of temporal and spiritual power. Ancient Judea had kings as well as rabbis, and both had their spheres of authority. Even at the height of its powers, the Catholic Church never tried to usurp the authority of princes in the secular realm, and the princes respected the authority of Rome in the spiritual. It was only when the Protestants broke from the church that the Catholic monarchs tried to force them back into the fold through force of arms.
TX is right, you know. You have pulled this same act since, what, '04? '05? Ask a question under the auspices of "learning" only to turn and argue with those whom you were asking for wisdom. That is something spoiled teenagers do, not rational adults. How is it, when the evidence of what has been said for years, hits you in the face and you whine about why you can't be a conservative? Some things are the way they are, dear, and we have to deal with them.
Islam has never been about "peace", it is about submission of non believers. If you cannot see the threat around you, how can you possibly hope to stop it when it seeks to consume the world? The islamists make no bones about what they want and what they are prepared to do to obtain it. They put it out there for all to see.
Where is your sense of reality, girl? Where is the adult sense of knowing when you are threatened and there is no negotiating with insane idealogues? For the love of all that is, wake up, little girl! Nobody here hates you, we're sick and tired of trying to make you see what is plainly in front of your eyes.
It is based upon borrowed beliefs and practices from Judaism, Christianity and all the pagan religions from the pedophile prophet. He completely screwed up those beliefs due to his syphilitic brain and epilepsy, and spent the rest of his deranged life trying to justify and qualify those earlier writings full of contradictory statements with "new" revelations (fevered brain visions), by saying the newest revelations were the "real" revelations.
He "married" his older aunt and his 8 year old cousin. Sick doesn't begin to cover this disgusting pervert "Prophet."
As for the other moose-limbs you mention, they may proceed at any time at their cost to visit Iraq. How precious that they have no problem suggesting our troops go to their beloved homeland to die for something they are not willing to do themselves.
Source: Islamic History Revisited, Walter Bern, Harvard Press, originally published October, 1985 (out of print), pp. 129-130Gerd R. Puin's initial study of ancient Qur'an manuscripts found in Yemen led him to conclude that the Qur'an is a "cocktail of texts", some of which may have been existent a hundred years before Muhammad. He later stated that "these Yemeni Qur'anic fragments do not differ from those found in museums and libraries elsewhere, with the exception of details that do not touch the Qur'an itself, but are rather differences in the way words are spelled." Puin has stated that he believes the Qur'an was an evolving text rather than simply the Word of God as revealed in its entirety to the Prophet Muhammad in the seventh century A.D.
Karl-Heinz Ohlig comes to the conclusion that the person of Muhammed was not central to early Islam at all, and that at this very early stage Islam was in fact an Arabic Christian sect (likely Ebionite, Arian and/or Nestorian, based on the recorded Ebionite faith of Khadija, Muhammad's first wife, and the Arianism and/or Nestorianism of her cousin, the monk Bahira, recorded by John of Damascus in the early 8th century) which had objections to the concept of the trinity, and that the later hadith and biographies are in large part legends, instrumental in severing Islam from its Christian roots and building a full-blown new religion.
John Wansbrough believes that the Qu’ran is a redaction in part of other sacred scriptures, in particular the Judaeo-Christian scriptures. Prof. Herbert Berg writes that "Despite John Wansbrough's very cautious and careful inclusion of qualifications such as "conjectural," and "tentative and emphatically provisional", his work is condemned by some. Some of negative reaction is undoubtedly due to its radicalness...Wansbrough's work has been embraced wholeheartedly by a significant number of Islamic scholars and has been employed in a piecemeal fashion by many more. Many praise his insights and methods, if not all of his conclusions."
In short.....according to these scholars, Islam is a fraud, nothing more, nothing less......
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Lanie's explanation why she'd never be conservative is pretty much how I feel about never being a liberal. "Middle ground" though is a slippery slope, because imo liberals will compromise, meaning "agree with me or forget it".
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