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09-13-2012, 06:01 PM
Bouncy, bouncy.
Your relative who allegedly sat on the DSM IV committee had nothing to do with removing homosexuality from the manual. It was removed long before that edition was
published. I have a DSM III-R, published in the mid-80s, and homosexuality is not listed in that one as a psychological disorder.
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09-13-2012, 07:03 PM
Again bullshit.....nowhere in my remarks did I state that my relative was responsible for removing it from the DSM 4, only that he participated, and that its removal was purely politics, and there is still (to this day) heated debate about it, there have been firm concerted efforts on behalf of many of the committee to reinstate that diagnosis since it was removed. Political correctness has always prevailed.
Political correctness is not medicine......
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09-13-2012, 09:57 PM
I will admit it, I know gays who are conservative...and they don't bother me as much as libs do. Except for someone I know very well, who has been a conservative all her life, but has recently started voting for Liberals because of the one single issue that affects her, which is gay marriage. She has been with her partner for 30 years, so I can sympathize with her view. But that doesn't stop me from urging her not the be single issue voter...but I know she will vote for Obama, especially since he recently came out in favor of gay "marriage". If they want the same rights as married couples, I don't see why they can't be satisfied with civil unions. Why the need to be married (a religious sacrament) is beyond me when you can receive the same benefits with civil unions.
Saying that, I don't believe it is normal behavior. It IS still deviant no matter how you slice it, it is an evolutionary dead end, it goes against human nature and multiplication of the species. When gays can figure out how to procreate without taking the parts of the opposite sex, then I will perhaps consider it normal behavior. But honestly, I don't care what people do in their sex lives, my issue is their "look at me, I'm GAY, and you have to LIKE it" that's hard to swallow, no pun.
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09-13-2012, 11:38 PM
m00, you have ignored the subject... Thank you for showing the confidence of your convictions. Also...thank you for facing a victim of such relations... COWARD!
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09-14-2012, 10:48 AM
Easy, see below.
Originally Posted by me
Deviant behavior is not necessarily a psychological disorder.
It just means "abnormal" which isn't any more of a diagnosis, it's a description based on the assumption that there is such a thing as "normal", whether it's describing sexuality or other issues.
Incidentally, it's not "abnormal", it's "unnatural". Many things not considered "normal" are perfectly rational while unnatural is, well, unnatural.
Pedophelia is not a sexual orientation, it is a sexual attraction to children.
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09-23-2015, 10:20 AM
The thing that should concern everyone here is how the Pedo crowd is going about justifying this stuff. This guy is approaching it from understanding and empathy. But some of the real messed up are using the Children as the voices of wanting to be liberated and desiring a relationship with adults.
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