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    By Ross Kaminsky on 9.14.12 @ 6:09AM

    A frightening violation of human rights by Eric Holder's corrupt Justice Department.

    It is hard to know who should frighten Americans more: radical Islamists or our own government.

    I say this with only the slightest hint of hyperbole following Thursday's Associated Press story about the evil genius (not!) behind the sophomoric film "Innocence of Muslims," which Islamofascists across the Middle East and North Africa are using as a flimsy excuse -- an excuse only believed by the Obama administration and other blame-America-first naïfs -- to kill American people and destroy American property.

    The scary part of the story is not that Nakoula Basseley Nakoula was described as having a "checkered past" including a criminal prosecution two years ago.

    The scary part of the story is not that we now know that "Sam Bacile" is an alias used by Nakoula while making the film and publishing it online.

    The scary part of the story is not that Nakoula, a Coptic Christian, was claiming, when talking about his ridiculous film, to be Jewish (as if my tribe doesn't have enough problems with people from the Middle East to Foggy Bottom).

    The scary part isn't even that Steve Klein, a "Christian activist" who was involved with making the film, told the AP that he "warned the filmmaker that 'you're going to be the next Theo van Gogh.'" Van Gogh was the Dutch filmmaker who was shot eight times and nearly decapitated by a Dutch-born Muslim of Moroccan descent who disapproved of Van Gogh's short film Submission.

    No, the frightening, terrifying, chilling part of the story is that Mr. Nakoula was identified to the AP by "a federal law enforcement official… who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss an ongoing investigation."

    The AP notes that Attorney General Eric Holder, who presides over the most corrupt Justice Department of my lifetime, is launching a criminal investigation into the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other embassy staff in Benghazi, Libya.

    It is inconceivable (to the extent that anything is inconceivable with this Attorney General) that Mr. Nakoula could be a legitimate target of such an investigation, regardless of what else he might have done wrong (such as misleading his actors and dubbing their dialogue with references to Mohammed after the film was made). Nakoula's First Amendment rights in this situation are absolute.

    But even that misses the point: Our government just identified to a news organization the real name of a person who is undoubtedly the highest on the hit list, the forefront of the fatwas, of every hypersensitive but well-armed Muslim radical on the planet.

    As if publishing the name isn't enough, the AP then tells the world that they found Nakoula "outside Los Angeles." Yes, I realize that's a rather large area and not exactly like giving his street address, but do you think that makes Mr. Nakoula feel better?

    But wait, there's more! The Washington Post (and presumably other papers) later in the day named his home town as Cerritos, California. And as if that's not enough, we learn that at Nakoula's property, "county authorities were present because roughly two dozen reporters and film crews were waiting to interview Nakoula."

    It is exceedingly likely that the Nakoula family will never be able to inhabit that home again… and that the people who live there next might always live in fear. (I wonder how much that will damage the Nakoula's selling price for the home.)

    I stipulate that the AP already seemed on Mr. Nakoula's trail, having traced a phone number used by "Sam Bacile" to Nakoula's address.

    I admit that Nakoula clearly knew that he would be taking a risk by making and releasing this film, despite it appearing more like a bad Monty Python production than serious social critique.

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    I saw that this guy donated a million to Obama's campaign so I have to say .. We often say "oh if he/she said that about Islam they'd be dead" or "Christians take it on the chin but no one has the guts to talk smack about Islam". Props to him for having the courage to make the stupid film. If Obama and his supporters had an ounce of intellectual honesty, they'd see the savages for what they are.

    The media outing him is just sickening. If/when he ends up dead, I hope his family sues the pants off every media outlet responsible for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    I saw that this guy donated a million to Obama's campaign so I have to say .. We often say "oh if he/she said that about Islam they'd be dead" or "Christians take it on the chin but no one has the guts to talk smack about Islam". Props to him for having the courage to make the stupid film. If Obama and his supporters had an ounce of intellectual honesty, they'd see the savages for what they are.

    The media outing him is just sickening. If/when he ends up dead, I hope his family sues the pants off every media outlet responsible for it.
    They are nailing Coptic Christians to crosses in Egypt, a Coptic Christian makes a film denouncing Islam and the USA of all places vilifies and harasses him. Judgement day will be bad for a lot of people some day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    I saw that this guy donated a million to Obama's campaign so I have to say .. We often say "oh if he/she said that about Islam they'd be dead" or "Christians take it on the chin but no one has the guts to talk smack about Islam". Props to him for having the courage to make the stupid film. If Obama and his supporters had an ounce of intellectual honesty, they'd see the savages for what they are.

    The media outing him is just sickening. If/when he ends up dead, I hope his family sues the pants off every media outlet responsible for it.
    And when they do, watch the same people who threw freedom of speech under the bus in order to placate Muslims suddenly discover the importance of the First Amendment.
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    I confess to knowing very little about the structure of the internet. Does the fact that these people continue to have access to the internet, in a way imply that the US isn't actually interested in cutting them off? Or is it that as long as they have access to the internet, there is a chance they might read something that tells them that Islamic Jihad is not the preferred way of life?
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    If is on parole, then there are all sorts of issues that might come about as a result of this. A few thoughts:

    Why is a parolee allowed to make campaign contributions? Can parolee's even vote? Where did he get $1 million to throw at Obama's campaign?

    The making of a film does not constitute a crime. Having a third party post it to YouTube shouldn't, either. Unless his actions violated the terms of his parole, there are no grounds for this action.

    The members of the administration who have come out against films that insult a particular religion should go back and see if they took any contributions from Martin Scorsese, whose Last Temptation of Christ was far more insulting to Christians than this film was to Muslims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    If is on parole, then there are all sorts of issues that might come about as a result of this. A few thoughts:

    Why is a parolee allowed to make campaign contributions? Can parolee's even vote? Where did he get $1 million to throw at Obama's campaign?

    The making of a film does not constitute a crime. Having a third party post it to YouTube shouldn't, either. Unless his actions violated the terms of his parole, there are no grounds for this action.

    The members of the administration who have come out against films that insult a particular religion should go back and see if they took any contributions from Martin Scorsese, whose Last Temptation of Christ was far more insulting to Christians than this film was to Muslims.

    The Last Temptation Of Christ was offensive to a bunch of Christians who didn't see it. It was really pretty benign. I'm a Christian, I didn't find it offensive that a greek writer wrote a novel about the life of Christ in which he considered the ultimate temptation for Christ was that of the normal life of a normal man, which included marriage and lying next to one's wife. There was no sex in Scorsese's move, just a scene of a fantasy/temptation to live that normal life and wake up lying next to one's wife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    The Last Temptation Of Christ was offensive to a bunch of Christians who didn't see it. It was really pretty benign. I'm a Christian, I didn't find it offensive that a greek writer wrote a novel about the life of Christ in which he considered the ultimate temptation for Christ was that of the normal life of a normal man, which included marriage and lying next to one's wife. There was no sex in Scorsese's move, just a scene of a fantasy/temptation to live that normal life and wake up lying next to one's wife.
    It doesn't matter how benign you think that it was. Most of the Muslims who were rioting hadn't seen the trailer for a movie that hasn't been made, but they were whipped up into a murderous rage. Compare their reaction to the reactions of Christians to Last Temptation, Andreas Serrano's Piss Christ, or Andrew Ofili's portrait of Mary, complete with animal feces and porn images. For that matter, look at the reactions (or lack of same) to explicit anti-semitic cartoons, writings and films produced with the full collusion of Arab governments. This is the kind of crap that appears daily in the media of Muslim states:











    Al-Watan, (Qutar) June 2, 2010
    In Arabic: "Terror State."



    Akhbar al-Khalij, (Bahrain) June 3, 2010


    Ruz al-Yusuf, (Egypt) June 2, 2010
    Headline: "The Israeli Attack on the Freedom Flotilla." The Israeli soldier is saying: "I don't understand why the world is so shocked by me. I've been killing innocent people all my life and no one spoke to me (about it)…"



    Al-Yaum as-Sabe', (Egypt) June 1, 2010
    Headline: "A Zio-American Arab Massacre."
    The ship is labeled: "Freedom Flotilla to Gaza."

    http://www.thejidf.org/2010/06/carto...nd-muslim.html


    This is the kind of propaganda that appears in the official press in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Libya, Yemen, Iran, Iraq, the PA territories and every other country in which Islam is the official religion. And yet, no riots.

    How many times do Muslims have to explode over things that everyone else in the world ignores before you stop apologizing for them?
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