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    By Dana Blanton


    A large majority of likely voters believes all Americans should pay some federal income tax -- even if it is as little as one percent of what they make.

    Seventy-nine percent say everyone should pay something, according to a Fox News poll released Thursday. That includes 85 percent of Republicans, 83 percent of independents and 71 percent of Democrats.

    According to the IRS, last year approximately 41 percent of tax filers did not pay federal income tax. The Tax Policy Center estimates that will increase to 46 percent this year.

    Most voters (73 percent) are at least somewhat familiar with the widely-broadcast videotape of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney talking about “47 percent of Americans” and the number of people paying no federal income tax. Romney also talks about his concern that the country is becoming an entitlement society and that many are too dependent on government. Journalists and pundits speculated the tape would damage Romney’s campaign. Yet a 63-percent majority thinks the substance of Romney’s comment about dependence on government is mostly (36 percent) or somewhat true (27 percent).

    Three out of four voters believes the “average American” is at least somewhat dependent on government (76 percent), while less than a third says they personally are (31 percent).

    The poll also shows nearly half of voters -- 46 percent -- think the federal government is “trying to do too much” these days. That’s more than twice as many as say it’s doing “too little” (22 percent). Just over a quarter says the government is doing “about the right amount” (28 percent).

    Voters are sharply divided over which candidate they trust to do a better job managing their tax dollars: 46 percent say Romney, while 45 percent say Barack Obama.

    The Fox News poll is based on live telephone interviews on landlines and cell phones from September 24 to September 26 among 1,092 randomly-chosen likely voters nationwide. Likely voters are registered voters who are considered most likely to vote in the November presidential election. The poll is conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R). For the total sample, it has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points. The poll is weighted by age and race; it is not weighted by party identification.

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    It's an interesting situation. I'm definitely among the "47%" who don't pay taxes. We'll have 3 kids by the time taxes roll around next year so I'll be getting huge tax credits this year, somewhere around $5,800 I believe. Will end up somewhere between me getting $8-9k back over all. That's about 1/3rd of my taxable income that I'm getting back, and far more then I paid out over the year.

    I can say honestly we'd be having a hard time if I didn't get that money. I'm certainly ton on the subject. I don't like getting that kind of money from the government, but a the same time, I'm easily making half of the pay I'd could make in the civilian sector with my skills.

    Best in between that we could probably do would be to lower some of the tax credits we give the lower income brackets. Make sure their still getting something extra to help out, but not as much. If we made a 25% reduction in tax credits that would still be a good bit of "help" going back to the lower income brackets, but at the same time a huge amount of money the government can use to close the deficit gap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    It's an interesting situation. I'm definitely among the "47%" who don't pay taxes. We'll have 3 kids by the time taxes roll around next year so I'll be getting huge tax credits this year, somewhere around $5,800 I believe. Will end up somewhere between me getting $8-9k back over all. That's about 1/3rd of my taxable income that I'm getting back, and far more then I paid out over the year.

    I can say honestly we'd be having a hard time if I didn't get that money. I'm certainly ton on the subject. I don't like getting that kind of money from the government, but a the same time, I'm easily making half of the pay I'd could make in the civilian sector with my skills.

    Best in between that we could probably do would be to lower some of the tax credits we give the lower income brackets. Make sure their still getting something extra to help out, but not as much. If we made a 25% reduction in tax credits that would still be a good bit of "help" going back to the lower income brackets, but at the same time a huge amount of money the government can use to close the deficit gap.
    I would much rather we just pay you the money that you are worth and then have a flat tax or a sales tax that everyone pays. This will never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    I would much rather we just pay you the money that you are worth and then have a flat tax or a sales tax that everyone pays. This will never happen.

    Your right, it never will. America is hooked on a progressive tax system. It would be an exceedingly rare group of politicians who will sacrifice their careers to make that necessary change. Maybe we could push a change in the system softening the "progressiveness" in the mean time though.
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    During my working life, I always had more deducted so that I'd get a little for special things.

    I favor a personal flat tax with a single "floor" and a single tax rate. No deductions. Do the numbers and you find that it's actually progressive.

    The problem with a VAT or a sales tax is that it could be enacted before the IRS is eliminated. We could wind up with BOTH!

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    I cuss any year I ever got a refund. That's an interest free loan to the guvmint.

    I want to end up owing $1 less than requires a penalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marv View Post
    During my working life, I always had more deducted so that I'd get a little for special things.

    I favor a personal flat tax with a single "floor" and a single tax rate. No deductions. Do the numbers and you find that it's actually progressive.

    The problem with a VAT or a sales tax is that it could be enacted before the IRS is eliminated. We could wind up with BOTH!
    And have you ever seen a tax rescinded? Don't think so.
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    This is an absolute no-brainer. With that kind of polling Romney should really press that issue when it comes up in the debates.

    That is like the illegal immigration polling....up to 90% of the people polled oppose it.

    If someone had the nads to stand up and speak to these issues they would absolutely get elected.
    ENOUGH!
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