SF archbishop jokes about recent DUI arrest

**Lanie** · 10-09-2012, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by JB

That's nice. But I was just basing my statement on the fact that you're a girl and I'm not.

Women are always better drivers. :D

**Novaheart** · 10-09-2012, 11:52 AM

Well from now on he'll be doing his drinking in San Francisco, a city second only to New Orleans for its tolerance of drunks.

**FlaGator** · 10-09-2012, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

There is also an extreme disparity of prosecution for & eventual outcomes for DUI/DWI

One of my brothers third DUI was back in the 90's. He never spent more than a couple hrs in jail or paid a fine greater than $300. His third DUI also included Driving while under suspension, no licence ,tags or registration for his motorcycle or insurance. He was required to enter into a 12 step program and attend meetings regularly for a year. After his 2nd meeting he bailed on the program because he said all the meetings were a bunch of cry babies blaming their problems on others. He said he knew what he was doing was wrong but if caught was willing to nut up & take his medicine.

For my third DUI I got minimums: 30 days in jail, $1000 fine, DUI School level 2, license revoked for 10 years, alcohol counseling and 1 year probation or probation until I finished my jail, paid my fine and completed my alcohol counseling.

The maximum could have been 5 years in prison, $10,000 fine, license revoked for 10 years and alcohol counseling (in prison).

The average sentence is usually 4 months in jail, a $5000 fine and the rest of the stuff.

Most states don't play games anymore. Florida's DUI laws aren't even in the top 10. I think that Illinois and California have the strictest laws (unless your Linsey Lohan). You get caught while on probation driving with a suspended license then you do up to a year. If you are off probation and you get caught and convicted driving on a license that was suspended or revoked because of a DUI you get 10 to 30 days no questions asked.

**Novaheart** · 10-09-2012, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by FlaGator

For my third DUI I got minimums: 30 days in jail, $1000 fine, DUI School level 2, license revoked for 10 years, alcohol counseling and 1 year probation or probation until I finished my jail, paid my fine and completed my alcohol counseling.

The maximum could have been 5 years in prison, $10,000 fine, license revoked for 10 years and alcohol counseling (in prison).

The average sentence is usually 4 months in jail, a $5000 fine and the rest of the stuff.

Most states don't play games anymore. Florida's DUI laws aren't even in the top 10. I think that Illinois and California have the strictest laws (unless your Linsey Lohan). You get caught while on probation driving with a suspended license then you do up to a year. If you are off probation and you get caught and convicted driving on a license that was suspended or revoked because of a DUI you get 10 to 30 days no questions asked.

Day-am! The state is playing rough these days. I'll bet there are guys who got less for armed robbery.

**FlaGator** · 10-09-2012, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Novaheart

Day-am! The state is playing rough these days. I'll bet there are guys who got less for armed robbery.

4th DUI is up to 5 years in prison, $10,000 fine and permanent revokation of your license with no hardship license allowed to be issued ever. If you get caught driving with a license revoked due to a 4th DUI you will get labeled and habitual offender and can get another 10 years.

**noonwitch** · 10-09-2012, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Novaheart

Day-am! The state is playing rough these days. I'll bet there are guys who got less for armed robbery.

I know that armed robbery involves specific, criminal intent. DUIs don't necessarily involve criminal intent, but you could make the case that a drunk driver can harm as many people as an armed robber can. You can always get more money. Closed head injuries are incurable.

**m00** · 10-09-2012, 04:09 PM

Yeah I have a "drink a beer, wait an hour" rule. But I'm a pretty big guy. I barely feel a single beer as it is.

**Zeus** · 10-09-2012, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by FlaGator

4th DUI is up to 5 years in prison, $10,000 fine and permanent revokation of your license with no hardship license allowed to be issued ever. If you get caught driving with a license revoked due to a 4th DUI you will get labeled and habitual offender and can get another 10 years.

In Texas a 3^rdDUI is Felony DUI and you may very well be sent to the big house for awhile. That's also in a lifetime, does not matter if it's been 30 yrs in between DUI's. Dude in Austin got 99 yrs for a DUI but it was his 11^thor so time.