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    I'd like to explain why I think evolution is real. First of all, I don't need creation scientists to prove that God made the world in 7 twenty-four hour days. I have faith that God created the world, and that's what the Bible requires.



    Onto science, I think I should first start with a definition of evolution.



    http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm



    Biological evolution is genetic change in a population from one generation to another. The speed and direction of change is variable with different species lines and at different times. Continuous evolution over many generations can result in the development of new varieties and species. Likewise, failure to evolve in response to environmental changes can, and often does, lead to extinction.

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    Evidence better explained than I can explain it.



    How Do We Know That Evolution Has Occurred?

    The evidence for evolution has primarily come from four sources:




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    the fossil record of change in earlier species



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    the chemical and anatomical similarities of related life forms



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    the geographic distribution of related species



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    the recorded genetic changes in living organisms over many generations










    Now, what convinces me the most is medical science. It simply wouldn't work without evolution.




    This process of natural selection resulting in evolution can be easily demonstrated over a 24 hour period in a laboratory Petri dish of bacteria living in a nutrient medium. When a lethal dose of antibiotic is added, there will be a mass die-off. However, a few of the bacteria usually are immune and survive. The next generation is mostly immune because they have inherited immunity from the survivors. That is the case with the purple bacteria in the Petri dishes shown below--the bacteria population has evolved.



    Now, some people might be able to accept this, but what about Darwin's theory of evolution? We don't come from monkeys, right? Well, the theory doesn't say that. It only says we're related through a common ancester. Sounds hard to believe, but it's hard to deny it when we share 99% of the DNA with apes.



    http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-related-are-h



    Using such reasoning, it has been estimated that the last common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees (with whom we share 99 percent of our genes) lived five million years ago. Going back a little farther, the Hominidae clade is 13 million years old. If we continue farther back in time, we find that placental mammals are between 60 and 80 million years old and that the oldest four-limbed animal, or tetrapod, lived between 300 and 350 million years ago and the earliest chordates (animals with a notochord) appeared about 990 million years ago. Humans belong to each of these successively broader groups.





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    Do you really want to go here? Really? Why?

    Also... how much of this is a quoted article, and how much is your own logic/reasoning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by m00 View Post
    Do you really want to go here? Really? Why?
    Because it's been at least two years since she brought this topic up...and since she keeps getting pwn3d on Islam...she's going after Christianity now.


    She's pot stirring. Must be tired of where her post count is right now.
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    Lanie, please point out in the Bible where it says God created the world in 7 24 hour days. I'll wait for your response before I really get into this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m00 View Post
    Do you really want to go here? Really? Why?

    Also... how much of this is a quoted article, and how much is your own logic/reasoning?

    I posted a lot of quotes because I think they can explain things better than I can.

    In my own words.....

    Evolution is about changes within a species. After a long time, these changes can be so great that the species has permanent changes. An example might be giraffs. If there were short necked ones who couldn't reach the trees, then it's fair to say that the ones with long necks would outlive the others.

    I don't see how people can deny the evidence of evolution in light of medical science. We use our knowledge in evolution (mutations, surviving bacteria, etc) to come up with treatments.

    Creation "science" not only denies Darwin's theory of evolution, but it claims that the earth is only about six thousand years old. We have fossils that prove otherwise.

    As for my posting it here, I do not believe that every last conservative believes completely in creation science.
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    If evolution was occurring Linda numbers would have told us, she would have noticed it happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    If there were short necked ones who couldn't reach the trees, then it's fair to say that the ones with long necks would outlive the others.
    What is causing giraffes to evolve to have longer necks in the first place? Random mutations? If this were true, where is the fossil evidence of all the freaks of nature that never survive. Because, you know, if it's random then where's the giraffe with longer legs, or a longer tail, longer teeth, and so forth. Think about it. random mutations. Seems unlikely we'd be alive at all.

    Because you know we have random mutations all the time. It's called cancer. We don't call cancer survivors "super-evolved humans"

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    I don't see how people can deny the evidence of evolution in light of medical science. We use our knowledge in evolution (mutations, surviving bacteria, etc) to come up with treatments.
    I was just reading an article about how modern birds evolved from a dinosaur offshoot. Also, dinosaurs probably were warm blooded and had feathers. So basically if true, every theory about dinosaur evolution that I learned in school 20-25 years ago was just completely dead wrong. It's not like they didn't have a fossil record 20-25 years ago. But this time they got it right. Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    Creation "science" not only denies Darwin's theory of evolution, but it claims that the earth is only about six thousand years old. We have fossils that prove otherwise.
    Is it your position that everyone who denies Darwin's theory of evolution, also denies genetic expression and also believes the earth is six thousand years old? Because it sounds like you are saying "the earth is not 6000 years old therefore Darwin's Theory of Evolution is correct." By that logic I could say "Sandra Fluke should pay for her own birth control, therefore Global Warming is junk science."
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post


    Very true Jonesy. It's Bridget bring up something that's been explained time and again and she just doesn't seem to get.
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