06-12-2008, 12:28 AM
Answer my question, Blinky. If foreign nationals and their supporters used a country of origin flag to symbolize their dissatisfaction with the laws regarding illegal aliens in that country would the World Court look on in bliss? Would the citizens of the country in question? If Mexicans and South Americans can demand citizen-level treatment here when they are illegal aliens, is it okay if illegally resident Americans demand the same "rights" in France? Liberia? China?
06-12-2008, 12:40 AM
EyelidsGuest06-12-2008, 12:51 AM
Yes, if an American living illegally abroad believes they process for nationalization is unfair I think they should have a right to voice their displeasure. I'm not big on borders or weird false nationalistic pride, I think America is a swell place and I'm glad I live here... but who am I (who is only an American by completely chance of birthright) to say others are unfit to be Americans?
I'll even make the claim that those who successfully immigrate into America embody more American values than most natural born citizens. This is a much larger point I'm bringing up... but to answer your question:
Yes, any person who feels like they are being treated unfairly has the right to voice their displeasure. And if all they want to do is fly a flag to display pride in their heritage I'm perfectly fine with that.
06-12-2008, 01:06 AM
How is it fair for illegal immigrants to demand rights that are denied to resident aliens who have worked through the legal immigration procedures, sometimes for years?
The Mexican flag in last year's demonstrations did not show some kind pride of heritage. It was a deliberate provocation.
Again, do you believe that the Swiss or the Chinese or the French would have been as accepting or more accepting of mass demonstrations by American illegal aliens marching behind the flag of the United States? If not, why not?
EyelidsGuest06-12-2008, 01:25 AM
I cant control how other people feel about mass demonstrations, nor is it really relvant to this discussion. This is about my feelings on the matter, and I dont care if its Somalia, France, Germany, Russia, China or whatever... my views on the matter are going to stay very consistent.
And demonstrations are meant to provoke people... thats kind of the point.
06-12-2008, 06:26 AM
- Join Date
- Jun 2005
- Woodland Park, Colorado, United States
There are bigots who fly the Battle flag. There are also people who fly it as a symbol of their southern heritage.
I've seen the flag with the inscription: "Heritage- Not Hate"
I see this as a symbol of heritage but I don't display it because I respect the (wrong) opinion that it is a racist symbol and bothers some people. I don't get the hubbub over it and nothing said about the Malcolm X?Black Power/ crap. I don't like the disparity. That being said; the State of Mexico flag will be fine once it is annexed; not before.
(I apologize for the semi-colons; my comma won't work)
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