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    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - California counties can issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples beginning June 17, the state said in a directive issued Wednesday.

    The state Office of Vital Records said it chose June 17 because the state Supreme Court has until the close of business on June 16 to decide whether to grant a stay of its May 15 ruling legalizing gay marriage.

    Gay rights advocates and some clerks initially thought couples would be able to wed as early as Saturday, June 14—exactly 30 days after the court's ruling, when its decisions typically take effect.

    But a group opposed to gay marriage has asked the court to stay its decision until after the November election, when voters are likely to face a ballot initiative that would once again define marriage as a union between a man and a woman. Passage of the initiative would overrule the Supreme Court.

    Under the Supreme Court's regular rules of procedure, justices have until the end of the day on June 16 to rule on the stay request, according to the memo sent by e-mail to the state's 58 county clerks. Lawyers involved in the marriage case have said previously the court could grant itself an extra 60 days to consider the stay.

    The guidelines from Mark Horton, director of the California Department of Public Health, also contained copies of new marriage forms that include lines for "Party A" and "Party B" instead of bridge and groom. The gender-neutral nomenclature was developed in consultation with county clerks, according to the letter.

    "Effective June 17, 2008, only the enclosed new forms may be issued for the issuance of marriage licenses in California," the directive reads.
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    I'm glad I don't live in California, although, I think Arizona may not be far behind with a similar measure.

    We are becoming California-lite it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jendf View Post
    I'm glad I don't live in California, although, I think Arizona may not be far behind with a similar measure.

    We are becoming California-lite it seems.

    Just ask your state rep to write a bill banning out-migrants from California.:D




    If only that were legal.
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    In '06, Arizona became the first state to NOT pass a resolution recognizing marriage as between one man and one woman. Our state legislature is trying to get it on the ballot again this November. I'm not holding out much hope that this one will pass either.

    It saddens me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jendf View Post
    In '06, Arizona became the first state to NOT pass a resolution recognizing marriage as between one man and one woman. Our state legislature is trying to get it on the ballot again this November. I'm not holding out much hope that this one will pass either.

    It saddens me.
    Why should it sadden you? This is the way the world works. The youth in america aren't really all that weirded out by gay people. It's only a matter of time before gays get the same rights that straights have. New ideas about social policies only rarely revert backwards in America.

    Gay marriage doesn't make straight marriage any different. It should mean fewer gays with AIDS since fewer partners equals fewer STD infections. It should be good for the economy to have people sharing their resources, saving for retirement, etc. Gays tend to be better educated and commit less crime, and I think married gays will be decent citizens.

    I guess I just don't see how it affects me negatively. I am open to suggestions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    Why should it sadden you? This is the way the world works. The youth in america aren't really all that weirded out by gay people. It's only a matter of time before gays get the same rights that straights have. New ideas about social policies only rarely revert backwards in America.

    Gay marriage doesn't make straight marriage any different. It should mean fewer gays with AIDS since fewer partners equals fewer STD infections. It should be good for the economy to have people sharing their resources, saving for retirement, etc. Gays tend to be better educated and commit less crime, and I think married gays will be decent citizens.

    I guess I just don't see how it affects me negatively. I am open to suggestions.
    Some think Homosexuality is immoral. Touchy subject best to just leave it at that.
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    I heard this morning on the news that NY was going to recognize gay marriges performed in CA.

    I wonder what happens when the law is overturned? Will those marriages remain valid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    Why should it sadden you? This is the way the world works. The youth in america aren't really all that weirded out by gay people. It's only a matter of time before gays get the same rights that straights have. New ideas about social policies only rarely revert backwards in America.

    Gay marriage doesn't make straight marriage any different. It should mean fewer gays with AIDS since fewer partners equals fewer STD infections. It should be good for the economy to have people sharing their resources, saving for retirement, etc. Gays tend to be better educated and commit less crime, and I think married gays will be decent citizens.

    I guess I just don't see how it affects me negatively. I am open to suggestions.
    How about the people's will? They voted to ban gay marriage. Do you believe the courts should create law?
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