Most worse - FDR
Right now it is tied for second between Carter and obama.
After tomorrow, I will move obama into the slot above Carter
Order of best:
Best - Reagan
Second best - Lincoln ..
Anyone who doesn't like Lincoln is just upset because he abolished slavery, and you liberals are all for slavery. After all, you are the racist party ..
He freed the slaves because it was Politically expedient.
If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear - Honest Abe“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together - Honest Abe
Sorry to drop a big truth bomb on you, but anyone who thinks Lincoln was a great President probably likes the expansion of Federal power into all areas of you private lives. He was the first guy to think it was cool. And Lincoln's GOP was very different than the conservatism of today's GOP.
So it was about Slavery but it wasn't like the North had any sort of mainstream ethical moral outrage. Just like people in the US don't care about the horrible conditions of your average Chinese factory worker, until they start putting Americans out of work.
On edit: there's a modern day version of this playing out all over the EU. You have countries talking about leaving the EU (basically bailing on the debt they owe Germany), and other countries like Poland and I think Romania flooding Europe with cheap labour.
Apologize for wall of text, but as I said it's not a soundbyte issue.
Last edited by m00; 11-05-2012 at 07:41 PM.
I predict a stack of ballots will be discovered in King Tuts Tomb if the election becomes close and the 9th circuit court of appeals will decide they are admissible.
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