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  1. #1 Concerns raised over possible exploitation of mentally disabled voters 
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    By Gregory Phillips
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    Jimmy Green's stepdaughter had never voted before. The 57-year-old is mentally disabled, and Green said she doesn't understand the concept of casting a ballot.

    But this week, she called her parents to say she had voted for President Obama. The care home in Fayetteville where she lives registered its residents to vote and drove them to the polls, Green said.

    "My concern is that somebody told her who to vote for," he said. "She didn't even know there's two different parties."

    Complaints of uncomprehending voters being ferried to cast ballots surface every election. And in a presidential race as close as this year's, with huge levels of early voting, any perceived irregularity is falling under intense scrutiny.

    But federal and state laws are very clear - there is no competency test for voting.

    "The law specifically says that anyone with a disability is allowed to have assistance from anyone that they choose," said Terri Robertson, director of the Cumberland County Board of Elections. "As long as they can communicate to us in some way that they need assistance and who they wish to have assistance from, the law allows it."

    In 2010, Gary Bartlett, the state elections director, issued a memo to county boards clarifying the law.

    "In the absence of evidence of systematic fraud," Bartlett wrote, "the presumption should work in favor of the opportunity of the voter to vote."

    Don Talbot said he saw vans full of mentally disabled voters brought to the polls time and again during his years as a former precinct chief in Cumberland County. He said it often appeared they had little input in completing the ballot.

    "The audacity of it to me, it is shameful, but both parties do it," said Talbot, a former Fayetteville city councilman. "When you haul people that are not competent and you do their voting for them, that's fraud."

    Bob Hall with Democracy North Carolina, a voter rights group, said he hears protests about the opposite problem.

    "We also get complaints from people who want to provide assistance being told they're not allowed to give it," he said. "They go overboard on the other direction."

    It can be hard for observers to tell how much assistance a voter is getting, said Lisa Grafstein, a lawyer for the Disability Rights N.C. advocacy group.

    "It is tough, because you can't really get in the middle of that conversation and know what was going on there," she said. "We can't put a block on a whole host of people voting because we suspect there might be some incidental instances of exploitation ... . I don't think the law can really draw a black line like that."

    When exploitation does occur, the focus should be on the people manipulating the voters rather than stripping the rights of the disabled, Grafstein said. She likened their situation to that of an elderly person scammed over the phone.

    "We don't take their phone away," she said. "We don't punish them for having been manipulated."

    Robertson said she's heard general complaints this year but no specific allegations of voter exploitation. Incidents can be reported to the Board of Elections at 678-7733.

    Jimmy Green has not lodged an official complaint about his stepdaughter being escorted to the polls. He said he fears reprisals against her from the care home.

    "I'm not holding up for either party here in this case," he said, "but it's just not right."

    Bartlett's memo acknowledged there could be instances when a voter who is not capable of communicating his identity or voting preference is permitted to vote.

    "That consequence is preferable to the conflicting consequence of inappropriately disenfranchising voters merely because of their communications shortcomings," Bartlett wrote. "In the absence of systematic fraud, this imperfect outcome is simply one with which we must live."
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    Wouldn't most obama voters be considered mentally disabled?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
    Wouldn't most obama voters be considered mentally disabled?
    That is the way I look at it, how is this somehow different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
    Wouldn't most obama voters be considered mentally disabled?
    That reality aside, here in TX only precinct workers are allowed in the booth as aides for anyone with need for same.

    That said, we saw some nasty 'observing' on news video last night. Apparently a little old henna-haired lady was placing herself in such a position as to (it looked like) intimidate voters in the booth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
    Wouldn't most obama voters be considered mentally disabled?
    Yes, yes, and more yes!

    Should not be in here posting tonight ... but this article angers me to no end.

    The opportunity to lead the poor souls to vote for the so-called candidate of the helper's choice is overwhelming, and fraud at it's absolute worst.

    "My concern is that somebody told her who to vote for," he said. "She didn't even know there's two different parties."
    Makes me once again want to insist on having IQ tests for prospective voters ... at least one on the candidates running and their stand on the issues involved!!!

    For crying out loud (great euphemism employed here ) this election is a real game-changer for our country at this crucial time and to have this type of garbage going on is beyond words.

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    Joe Biden revealed his vacation plans to a Miami radio station earlier today:
    "You need to take a vacation!" the host told the vice president of the United States.

    "Well, I'm going to take a vacation about about three days after this election is over," Biden revealed. "That's what they told me."
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    ahhh, democrats, never shying away from exploiting anyone to help in their grab for power.
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    As I posted in another thread, they've got the mentally challenged voting down here in Sarasota. We had the droolers and the poor folks who were very confused and really needed help. All were clutching their Democratic sample ballots. After I was finished voting, they had an elderly guy in there trying to vote, with a poll worker saying that he'd need help reading the ballot, but said that no one could go with him (such as the person bringing him). He, too, had that Dem ballot.

    The Dems are turning out full strength down here. Wherever you live, don't be complacent but get out to vote for Romney, please. Don't stay home.

    We voted early (today) so SR can stay on CU and watch the election coverage Tuesday.
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    Have no fear SLW ...

    The ABC household voted early as well.

    Would have taken our puss along to vote too, but we forgot to register her in time! ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABC in Georgia View Post
    Have no fear SLW ...

    The ABC household voted early as well.

    Would have taken our puss along to vote too, but we forgot to register her in time! ...
    I think this threw me, as it's my first vote in a presidential election in Florida. In my childhood Missouri was a blue state, but it's become a very red state. I was amazed at the sheer volume of folks clutching those Democratic instructions to vote. We clearly felt outnumbered, which isn't good for Romney. Hopefully enough Republicans sent in their absentee ballots and will turn out in larger numbers on Tuesday, but it's supposed to rain here then.
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