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    Think tank recommends big benefits cuts

    By Rick Maze - Staff writer
    Posted : Thursday Nov 1, 2012 11:36:21 EDT

    A new report by a liberal-leaning think tank recommends a dramatic overhaul of military pay, retirement and health care benefits as part of a $1 trillion cut in defense spending over 10 years.


    The Center for American Progress calls for capping pay raises, eliminating military health benefits for many retirees who are covered by an employer-provided plan, and reducing the value of military retired pay as well as making retirees wait until age 60 to start receiving it.


    Recommendations are included in a report, Rebalancing Our National Security, released Oct. 31 by the progressive think tank and advocacy group. The report opposes across-the-board cuts in defense spending that could occur beginning in January under sequestration but still calls for major reductions in defense spending.


    Capping pay raises, the report says, could save $16.5 billion over the next five years. Reducing retiree health care benefits, through a combination of restricting care and raising fees, could save $15 billion a year. Reforming military retired pay could save, in the short term, up to $13 billion a year, and over time could save up to $70 billion a year off the current plan.


    In addition to cutting compensation and benefits, the report also recommends cutting the number of active-duty troops permanently based in Europe and Asia, saving $10 billion a year. It recommends withdrawing 33,000 troops from Europe and about 17,000 from Asia.

    In calling for less spending on military pay raises, the report basically endorses a plan proposed, but not yet executed, by the Defense Department. Under the Pentagon plan, pay raises beginning in 2015 would be capped at less than the average increase in private sector pay, a move that responds to a belief that military members are being paid more than civilians with comparable jobs and experience. This happened because Congress, over Pentagon objections, has regularly provided the military with raises that were slightly larger than the average private-sector raise to eliminate what had been perceived as a pay gap. The end result, says the report, is that the average service member is receiving $5,400 more in annual compensation than a comparable civilian.


    The Defense Department plan calls for a 0.5 percent raise in 2015, a 1 percent raise in 2016 and a 1.5 percent raise in 2017 to bring pay levels back in line, which the CAP report endorses.
    “To its credit, the Department of Defense has attempted to tackle this problem in its FY 2013 budget request, outlining a plan that would gradually bring military pay back in line with the Employment Cost Index without cutting any service member’s pay,” the report says. “Congress should demonstrate political courage and allow the Department of Defense to execute this long-term plan.”


    Similarly, the report endorses many of the Defense Department’s proposals for cutting health care costs by raising fees, mostly on retirees and their families. But the report goes a step further: “To truly restore the Tricare program to stable financial footing, the Defense Department should enact measures to reduce the overutilization of medical services and limit double coverage of working-age military retirees,” the report says.


    One idea would be to modify Tricare for Life benefits for Medicare-eligible retirees so that the program would not cover the first $500 of costs per year and would cover only 50 percent of the next $5,000.


    Another idea would be to mandate that working-age retirees could only have Tricare benefits if they or their spouses do not have access to employer-provided health benefits. The report suggests this would be an income-based restriction but does not say what the cutoff should be.
    The report also recommends modifying military retirement benefits. For anyone currently in the military with fewer than 10 years of service, benefits could be cut: Instead of receiving 50 percent of basic pay after 20 years of service, with immediate benefits, the report says the benefits would be 40 percent of base pay with payments not beginning until age 60. For people not yet in the military, there would be no fixed retired pay in the future, only a pre-tax retirement savings plan based on contributions from the service member.
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    My response?

    In most sports, cold-cocking an opposing player repeatedly in the face with a series of gigantic Slovakian uppercuts would get you a multi-game suspension without pay.

    In hockey, it means you have to sit in the penalty box for five minutes.
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    With all due respect to our local Col...

    If they want to save some money, slash officer pay. Seriously, I've got 2nd and 1st Lt's here who do the jobs that E-3's can do, yet their making just as much, or more then I am. People who have been in the AF for 2 years, make as much money as I who have been in for 11, and they have significantly less responsibility then I do.

    Drives me nuts.

    Thats my Enlisted bitch about Officers of the week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    With all due respect to our local Col...

    If they want to save some money, slash officer pay. Seriously, I've got 2nd and 1st Lt's here who do the jobs that E-3's can do, yet their making just as much, or more then I am. People who have been in the AF for 2 years, make as much money as I who have been in for 11, and they have significantly less responsibility then I do.

    Drives me nuts.

    Thats my Enlisted bitch about Officers of the week.
    It happens everywhere, including business. I had 23 years in with my company, had a much more technical sale necessitating knowing federal contracting, as well as the different procurement rules dictated by local governments, plus selling the entire product line vs a more limited one, and they'd end up compensating the flavor of the month hire with no experience other than advanced butt kissing more than me. It was extremely demotivating. I think their business in my area of expertise pretty much fell apart after I left.

    Stuff just isn't fair sometimes. At least with a bit of distance from it, the negative feelings have subsided a bit. Now I understand how my dad felt when he had worked for one of the Baby Bell's for almost 45 years and would have to train the woman or recent college grad from one of the elite schools (my dad called them jet jobs who shot to the top) who would become his boss. Stuff just isn't fair all the time.
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    In one of my earlier lives I watched as a wage/hr man compared first of the month paychecks with the district mgr who had told him that the pay scale was loaded in the hourly wage favor.

    The 'grunt' said 'No, you did make more than me.'

    The mgr responded 'But I don't have another check coming on the 15th like you do.'
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    Yet another reason to put responsible people back in charge of National Defense.
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