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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Calling it a stupid comment misses the point. Chris Matthews is not saying something stupid, he is saying what he believes. Matthews was simply demonstrating his core principle, which is that the amount of pain imposed on the people of the United States is irrelevant as long as his side wins in the end. It's an end justifies the means attitude that the left embraces.

    This is the face of the Democrats who denounced our troops while Republicans were in power, but stopped the moment Bush left office, or who loved filibusters when Democrats were in the minority in the senate, but now want them abolished because they interfere with the agenda. In Matthews' world, anything goes, as long as the good guys win, and the good guys are they say they are, not matter how incompetent, corrupt or downright evil they may be. This is the worldview that allows a president to abandon people in the middle of a firefight, lie about it repeatedly and still claim to be strong on defense. It's the worldview that allows a senator to drown a woman and still be heralded by feminists, who also closed ranks to defend another president who was credibly accused of rape. It's the worldview that lets another senator be revered as the "conscience of the senate" despite his having been an officer in the KKK. It's a worldview that justifies anything, any lie, any act, any crime, as long as it advances the pursuit of power.

    All Matthews cares about is getting power to the left. If it takes a hurricane that leaves millions of people without the basic necessities of life, then he's okay with that. It's just the latest variation on not being able to make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.
    Hey, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette, right?
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    Originally Posted by Odysseus
    Calling it a stupid comment misses the point. Chris Matthews is not saying something stupid, he is saying what he believes. Matthews was simply demonstrating his core principle, which is that the amount of pain imposed on the people of the United States is irrelevant as long as his side wins in the end. It's an end justifies the means attitude that the left embraces.

    This is the face of the Democrats who denounced our troops while Republicans were in power, but stopped the moment Bush left office, or who loved filibusters when Democrats were in the minority in the senate, but now want them abolished because they interfere with the agenda. In Matthews' world, anything goes, as long as the good guys win, and the good guys are they say they are, not matter how incompetent, corrupt or downright evil they may be. This is the worldview that allows a president to abandon people in the middle of a firefight, lie about it repeatedly and still claim to be strong on defense. It's the worldview that allows a senator to drown a woman and still be heralded by feminists, who also closed ranks to defend another president who was credibly accused of rape. It's the worldview that lets another senator be revered as the "conscience of the senate" despite his having been an officer in the KKK. It's a worldview that justifies anything, any lie, any act, any crime, as long as it advances the pursuit of power.

    All Matthews cares about is getting power to the left. If it takes a hurricane that leaves millions of people without the basic necessities of life, then he's okay with that. It's just the latest variation on not being able to make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.
    Hey, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette, right?
    Isn't that what I said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Isn't that what I said?
    Yes, just reiterating it. That phrase has always struck me as the most incredibly asinine rationalization for Leftist bad behavior, particularly violence. I had a suite-mate in college who literally thought it was just fine that Che murdered people to advance his cause, and that was the phrase this asshole used with a shrug of the shoulders when I asked him why he thought murder was OK.

    Astounding. Just SMFH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Wood View Post
    Yes, just reiterating it. That phrase has always struck me as the most incredibly asinine rationalization for Leftist bad behavior, particularly violence. I had a suite-mate in college who literally thought it was just fine that Che murdered people to advance his cause, and that was the phrase this asshole used with a shrug of the shoulders when I asked him why he thought murder was OK.

    Astounding. Just SMFH.
    The answer to that is, "what if you're one of the eggs?" If he thought that murder was okay, then it would be okay to murder him, right?

    Leftists always assume that they'll be the ones wielding the spatula, or the gas line into the showers, but what happens if you base your policy positions on murder, and then lose? Is it okay to retaliate? And if you're going to be murdered if you don't toe the line, then it must be okay to kill the person who intends to murder you first, in self defense, so you would have been justified in killing your suite-mate. Did any of that ever occur to him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Calling it a stupid comment misses the point. Chris Matthews is not saying something stupid, he is saying what he believes. Matthews was simply demonstrating his core principle, which is that the amount of pain imposed on the people of the United States is irrelevant as long as his side wins in the end. It's an end justifies the means attitude that the left embraces.

    This is the face of the Democrats who denounced our troops while Republicans were in power, but stopped the moment Bush left office, or who loved filibusters when Democrats were in the minority in the senate, but now want them abolished because they interfere with the agenda. In Matthews' world, anything goes, as long as the good guys win, and the good guys are they say they are, not matter how incompetent, corrupt or downright evil they may be. This is the worldview that allows a president to abandon people in the middle of a firefight, lie about it repeatedly and still claim to be strong on defense. It's the worldview that allows a senator to drown a woman and still be heralded by feminists, who also closed ranks to defend another president who was credibly accused of rape. It's the worldview that lets another senator be revered as the "conscience of the senate" despite his having been an officer in the KKK. It's a worldview that justifies anything, any lie, any act, any crime, as long as it advances the pursuit of power.

    All Matthews cares about is getting power to the left. If it takes a hurricane that leaves millions of people without the basic necessities of life, then he's okay with that. It's just the latest variation on not being able to make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.
    This is 100% spot on accurate. Ody, ever consider a career in politics when you leave the Army? Or at least be a pundit? You're just as good as Ann Coulter or Charles Krauthammer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    This is 100% spot on accurate. Ody, ever consider a career in politics when you leave the Army? Or at least be a pundit? You're just as good as Ann Coulter or Charles Krauthammer.
    Maybe he already is? I think he's a Fox News contributor doing interviews when he is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Calling it a stupid comment misses the point. Chris Matthews is not saying something stupid, he is saying what he believes. Matthews was simply demonstrating his core principle, which is that the amount of pain imposed on the people of the United States is irrelevant as long as his side wins in the end. It's an end justifies the means attitude that the left embraces.

    This is the face of the Democrats who denounced our troops while Republicans were in power, but stopped the moment Bush left office, or who loved filibusters when Democrats were in the minority in the senate, but now want them abolished because they interfere with the agenda. In Matthews' world, anything goes, as long as the good guys win, and the good guys are they say they are, not matter how incompetent, corrupt or downright evil they may be. This is the worldview that allows a president to abandon people in the middle of a firefight, lie about it repeatedly and still claim to be strong on defense. It's the worldview that allows a senator to drown a woman and still be heralded by feminists, who also closed ranks to defend another president who was credibly accused of rape. It's the worldview that lets another senator be revered as the "conscience of the senate" despite his having been an officer in the KKK. It's a worldview that justifies anything, any lie, any act, any crime, as long as it advances the pursuit of power.

    All Matthews cares about is getting power to the left. If it takes a hurricane that leaves millions of people without the basic necessities of life, then he's okay with that. It's just the latest variation on not being able to make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.
    This is the same mentality that will allow them to herd up and off their competition without any remorse.
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