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    (Reuters) - Top Republican lawmaker John Boehner said on Thursday he would not make it his mission to repeal the Obama administration's healthcare reform law following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

    "The election changes that," Boehner, speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, told ABC news anchor Diane Sawyer when asked if repealing the law was "still your mission."

    "It's pretty clear that the president was re-elected," Boehner added. "Obamacare is the law of the land."

    Under Boehner's leadership, the House tried repeatedly to repeal the healthcare law, the signature domestic measure of Obama's first term. While a few provisions were eliminated or changed, Senate Democrats blocked outright termination of the law.

    Boehner added that parts of the law were going to be difficult to implement and that everything had to be on the table as lawmakers try to create a path to a balanced budget.

    A spokesman for Boehner said later the speaker and House Republicans "remain committed to repealing the law, and he said in the interview it would be on the table."

    The 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the biggest overhaul of the $2.8 trillion U.S. healthcare system since the 1960s, aims to extend health coverage to more than 30 million uninsured Americans beginning in January 2014.

    The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the reforms in a landmark June ruling.

    Defeated Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney had vowed to repeal the law if he were elected.

    In Tuesday's election, Republicans kept their majority in the House and Democrats maintained control of the Senate.

    In the ABC interview, Boehner also said a comprehensive approach to immigration reform was needed and he was confident that Republicans could find common ground with Obama on the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    (Reuters) - he was confident that Republicans could find common ground with Obama
    In other words, the spineless repubs, led by cry baby Boehner, are gonna fold like a cheap lawn chair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unreconstructed Reb View Post
    In other words, the spineless repubs, led by cry baby Boehner, are gonna fold like a cheap lawn chair.
    You can call it spineless, but what are their options?

    Reid will never allow a vote to repeal.
    Obama will veto any bill that touches it.
    Boehner can never get 60% of the House votes to override Obama.

    Boehner is right, it is now law of the land, we are out of options. Only real one left is try and fix that train wreck some how so not to be as bad, that means working with the Dims, but we need to accept we can't get rid of it now.
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    You don't work with shit, you drop a wrench in the gears, if they are worried about their political careers fuck them. I'm worried about my work too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    You can call it spineless, but what are their options?
    Because Colorado passed a measure allowing for the use of recreational marijuana (despite the federal prohibition) the House Republicans' best option is to champion a law saying that the Federal government can't prosecute or sanction the citizens of a state for engaging in an act that is Federally prohibited but specifically allowed by state law. That's the play.
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    I honestly don't know why some people are so upset by this. Mark Levin thinks it's the end of the world, but then he has comprehensive health care and you are paying for it.

    One more time folks:

    • We are already spending more on health care per person than any country which has a single payer system

    • Insurance companies skim money off the top of the health care delivery system. Health insurance was not invented by these people.

    • Having private health insurance will not get you better care. You are as likely to be sharing a hospital room with a vagrant as you would a peer. It will not get you preferred service at the ER, those decisions are made on the basis of urgency.

    • Not having health insurance is not freedom for either you or the public. You are a financial bomb waiting to go off which can take your business or everything you own, and the public will get stuck with the check one way or another.

    • This is not "taking" or stealing, commandeering or whatever buzzword you prefer "1/7th of the economy". Health insurance is not 1/7th of the economy, health care is and that is an issue unto itself. No, we're not talking about government taking over health care, we're talking about government taking over health care payment mechanism.

    • NONE, absolutely NO ASPECT of health care is completely private:

    - Doctors, nurses, researchers, and everyone associated with this industry have their educations subsidized by the taxpayers in the US or country of origin.

    - Research facilities are government funded. The pharmaceutical companies do not invent serious drugs. Pharmaceutical companies invent penis stiffy drugs and hair replacement tonics, universities and NIH invent the big gun drugs of immunology and oncology as well as all of the drugs for "orphan diseases" which only affect a few people who still happen to be people we love.

    - Every hospital, public or private, gets an institutional exemption from property taxes.

    – We, the public and consumer of health care, allow ourselves to be guinea pigs to train medical personnel in hospitals and to test new drugs and procedures. We are not paid for this, in fact we pay to have this done to us. When you get you hair cut by a student you get a discount, when you let a student stick a needle in your arm you get charged full freight.

    Examples: The functional MRI machine was patented at University of Illinois based on incremental technologies developed at Harvard, The USSR, and SUNY.

    The CAT Scanner, invented by Robert Ledley at Georgetown (a subsidized university) was just part of his amazing career, a great deal of which was directly government funded.

    AZT was first synthesized and developed at universities under an NIH grant as well as at the publicly funded Max-Planck-Gesellschaft zur Fφrderung der Wissenschaften.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    You don't work with shit, you drop a wrench in the gears, if they are worried about their political careers fuck them. I'm worried about my work too.
    So your option is do nothing to allow them to change the law trying to fix it. But in the mean time, they will allow a law now passed to be implemented regardless of what the House does.

    Quote Originally Posted by m00 View Post
    Because Colorado passed a measure allowing for the use of recreational marijuana (despite the federal prohibition) the House Republicans' best option is to champion a law saying that the Federal government can't prosecute or sanction the citizens of a state for engaging in an act that is Federally prohibited but specifically allowed by state law. That's the play.
    And how does the House get such a bill past the Senate, and Obama to become federal law?
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    Quote Originally Posted by m00 View Post
    Because Colorado passed a measure allowing for the use of recreational marijuana (despite the federal prohibition) the House Republicans' best option is to champion a law saying that the Federal government can't prosecute or sanction the citizens of a state for engaging in an act that is Federally prohibited but specifically allowed by state law. That's the play.
    I agree. I think the only way we're going to stop an out of control govt - and the next 4 yrs will be out of control, with O having nothing to lose - is for the states to begin pushing back. The states need to start taking back and exerting more of their rights and stand up to the Feds and SCOTUS if necessary.
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    Why are you people so up in arms? Be specific.

    These answers will not be considered serious:

    •*Because it's socialism
    • Because there will be death panels
    • Because there will be rationing
    • Because government doesn't do anything right
    • Any of the BS mantras from talk radio

    IN your own words, what do you think is going to happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    You don't work with shit, you drop a wrench in the gears, if they are worried about their political careers fuck them. I'm worried about my work too.
    I agree. Want an example of what could have happened? Look at what the democrats and Reid had planned if Romney would had won.

    These are people with an iron will. Look at what they had to do to PASS 0bamacare. But they did it anyways w/o 1 republican finger print on it. So why do we have to get our prints all over the Statist agenda now? What the hell are they drinking.. or smoking up there on our side?

    The Statists have set the precedent. Not just once, but time after time. They can do whatever the hell they want to do, no matter how unconstitutional, even if it means by executive fiat and who do we have? WHO do WE have? Boehner?!! Whos more than proven to be the iron fisted ideologues door mat, who no matter what, will FIND a way to compromise. (Oh thats right, lets see how much of our liberty we can compromise away to tyranny today. Hurry up, so I can crawl back under that rock over there)

    Is that what you want? Is that what we want? What we need? But wait, theres more.... soon we will have 2 more extreme leftwing nut jobs on the supreme court. Well, that should make the job for the cowards from the tanning salons on our side easier. Instead of taking the heat, they can just slough it off to the court. I bet Boehner and his golfing buddies cant wait for that.

    What is this ...rocket science now?
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