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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
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    I think it was Dorothy Parker, but can't verify it. As a rule, if it's bitchy and you can't find it, attribute it to Dorothy Parker or Quentin Crisp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    Yeah. I hear you. The Republican Party - or at least our candidates - have driven some of the free enterprise, right to life, Christianity, and personal responsibility stakes way to far into the ground. Some of the people we would like to attract have a hard time attaching themselves to a stake with no wiggle room.
    The problem with the GOP is that they spend far too much time fiddling with red herrings like the false war on women, abortion, and other stupidity instead of driving home those very aspects you listed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    I had a feeling if we lost this election that conservatives would fold like a cheap suit and I was right, there is no need to out liberal the liberals, just join them instead.
    Let's face it, there's only been a few real conservatives in the repub party for quite some time now and what I'm reading from Jindal's message is that we need to completely abondon conservative values, pitch a big tent and welcome everybody in. To these establishment, repubs winning elections is priority number one even if it means abandoning conservative values. But, in reality, it doesn't really matter because for all practical purposes the repubs are done as a viable alternative to the rats.

    You know, the more I think about it the more the repubs kinda remind me of those stooge basketball teams that used to play against the Harlem Globetrotters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unreconstructed Reb View Post
    Let's face it, there's only been a few real conservatives in the repub party for quite some time now and what I'm reading from Jindal's message is that we need to completely abondon conservative values, pitch a big tent and welcome everybody in. To these establishment, repubs winning elections is priority number one even if it means abandoning conservative values. But, in reality, it doesn't really matter because for all practical purposes the repubs are done as a viable alternative to the rats.

    You know, the more I think about it the more the repubs kinda remind me of those stooge basketball teams that used to play against the Harlem Globetrotters.
    The real problem is the definition of "conservative". Some would have that mean that it conforms to their religious beliefs. If conservative doesn't mean "mind your own business" then what does it mean? By the same token, "liberal" shouldn't be redefined to mean what the far left claims it does or the far right accuses it of doing.

    We live in a world where the establishment of a dictatorship would be on the ballot as "The Restoration of Democracy Act" and those in the legislature promoting it would call objecting judges "activist".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unreconstructed Reb View Post

    You know, the more I think about it the more the repubs kinda remind me of those stooge basketball teams that used to play against the Harlem Globetrotters.
    I don't think we were at that point before the last election but with their ability to tamper with the integrity of the elections we most certainly will match your description by 2014.
    How is obama working out for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    We live in a world where the establishment of a dictatorship would be on the ballot as "The Restoration of Democracy Act" and those in the legislature promoting it would call objecting judges "activist".
    It would be interesting to run a controlled experiment where you told a mixed group of Republicans and Democrats that this was a Republican initiative to oust Obama, and then told a different mixed group that this was a Democrat initiative to keep Obama in power for a 3rd term. And see how the responses on whether individuals in the gorup approved or disproved fell along party lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    The real problem is the definition of "conservative".
    We have no issue in defining ourselves. It's the left that seeks to label anyone that disagrees with them "Conservative" to try and somehow smear them.

    Some would have that mean that it conforms to their religious beliefs.
    Some = Liberals

    By the same token, "liberal" shouldn't be redefined to mean what the far left claims it does or the far right accuses it of doing.
    Only problem is that Liberalism IS clearly defined and their actions are clear as well. But because the media refuses to do it's job...the people that rightly point out what Liberalism is and what it's doing to this country...get labelled as "wing nuts".

    We live in a world where the establishment of a dictatorship would be on the ballot as "The Restoration of Democracy Act" and those in the legislature promoting it would call objecting judges "activist".
    You jsut described perfectly how Liberals and the media would frame just such a scenario.
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    I can't wait to hear people now claim Bobby Jindal is some sort of rino....

    We lost this election for two reasons..

    First, the campaign finance laws prevented Romney from responding to the devastating number of negative ads that Obama and his pals played in Virginia, Florida, Ohio and Colorado. Obama basically suppressed the independent and some conservatives in those states.

    Secondly, we have to stop running morons. Murdoch and that idiot in Missouri should never again be allowed near a microphone. They played right into the hands of Obama's "War on Women" bullshit. Next time a reporter asks about something stupid, we need to tell them to find other bait material.

    Jindal is a hard core conservative is has ALWAYS been pro-life, pro-second amendment and pro-small government. What he is saying is that we need to start to teach people again about conservative values and stop saying stupid stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainMan View Post
    I can't wait to hear people now claim Bobby Jindal is some sort of rino....

    We lost this election for two reasons..

    First, the campaign finance laws prevented Romney from responding to the devastating number of negative ads that Obama and his pals played in Virginia, Florida, Ohio and Colorado. Obama basically suppressed the independent and some conservatives in those states.

    Secondly, we have to stop running morons. Murdoch and that idiot in Missouri should never again be allowed near a microphone. They played right into the hands of Obama's "War on Women" bullshit. Next time a reporter asks about something stupid, we need to tell them to find other bait material.

    Jindal is a hard core conservative is has ALWAYS been pro-life, pro-second amendment and pro-small government. What he is saying is that we need to start to teach people again about conservative values and stop saying stupid stuff.
    Wrong. We lost this election for one reason: you can't compete with Santa Claus.

    I wouldn't worry about it, though, because, for all practical purposes, the United States of America is done. Welcome to the United Socialist States of Amerika.
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