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  1. #11  
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Do you feel the same when it comes to a woman falsely accusing a man of rape or does this only count when it comes to homosexual cases? Also, can't this be said of the case against the Catholic church? Oh, that's right. It involves the church so it was OK.
    It's not surprising that you would post such a thing, since you have repeatedly demonstrated that you don't read what I have actually written on any given subject, you simply look for an opportunity to convince yourself that you have taken a dig at me.

    I absolutely do feel the same way when a woman falsely accuses a man of rape. Are you saying that you are as willing to believe the one as the other? Correct me if I am wrong: Would a total stranger reading this thread not think that because this is "homosexual case" (not to mention that the accused is black) that you and Rock just assume facts not in evidence?

    Can't what be said of the Catholic Church as well? That there were false accusations and recantations? There were, but few of the shadenfreude crowd payed attention to those or committed them to memory. I absolutely was put in the position of defending the Catholic Church during that news and debate run, and didn't appreciate having to do it. But integrity is taking the right position even when it would be easier to sit back and watch the witches burn at the stake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    But integrity is taking the right position even when it would be easier to sit back and watch
    the witches burn at the stake.
    Spoken like a true friend of Dorothy.
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    I do not think Claims of sexual misconduct and/or physical abuse should be allowed to just go away. These are very serious accusations and can/do cause irreparable harm to the accused regardless of the veracity of the charge.
    The 21st century. The age of Smart phones and Stupid people.

    It is said that branches draw their life from the vine. Each is separate yet all are one as they share one life giving stem . The Bible tells us we are called to a similar union in life, our lives with the life of God. We are incorporated into him; made sharers in his life. Apart from this union we can do nothing.
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    The recanter now wants out of the settlement with Clash AND there is a new lawsuit as well:

    Kevin Clash Accuser Insists He Didn't Lie and Wants Out of Settlement

    According to a report from TMZ, Sheldon Stephens, the struggling actor/model who accused the 52-year-old puppeteer of having sex with him while he was underage, insists that he did not lie about his story. He now also wants to undo the settlement deal he signed just a few days ago.

    The 23-year-old Stephens also claims that he did not want to sign the agreement in the first place, but was pressured to do so at that moment. He regrets signing the deal and is now talking to lawyers in Los Angeles who could help him undo his actions.

    In the settlement agreed upon by the two sides earlier, Clash allegedly agreed to pay his accuser $125,000 for him to publicly retract his underage sex claim. Though Stephens signed the agreement, sources revealed to TMZ that he was literally crying throughout the final negotiations with Clash's lawyers and repeatedly said he didn't want to sign.

    With this new turn of events, Stephens is now saying to his lawyers that he is willing to forfeit the $125,000 in order to restore the dignity of his name. Meanwhile, Clash's lawyers said he would have no comment on the settlement story.

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    AND there's a real lawsuit now--filed by someone else-- and Elmo's voice has resigned:

    Voice of Elmo quits after underage sex lawsuit filed

    Voice of Elmo quits after underage sex lawsuit filed

    Kevin Clash, the puppeteer who provides the voice of Elmo on "Sesame Street," resigned Tuesday after a man filed a lawsuit accusing him of conducting an underage sexual relationship.

    The lawsuit was filed in a New York court Tuesday, a week after another accuser recanted his claim that Clash, now 52, engaged him in underage sex...

    ...In the lawsuit, Cecil Singleton alleged that Clash "persuaded, induced, coerced or enticed" him to meet for sexual encounters when he was 15 years old.

    "Kevin Clash preyed on vulnerable teenage boys, like Cecil Singleton, to satisfy his depraved sexual interests," attorney Jeff Herman said. "By coming forward now, Cecil hopes to spare the lives of others like him and to begin his own healing process."

    The suit seeks $5 million in damages from Clash, alleging that Singleton "suffered severe injuries, including but not limited to mental, psychological and emotional trauma."

    The earlier accuser -- who never filed a lawsuit -- issued a statement through a lawyer last week saying he "wants it to be known that his sexual relationship with Mr. Clash was an adult consensual relationship."
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    Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
    Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness;
    Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!
    21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes
    And clever in their own sight! Isaiah 5:20-21 NASB

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    Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.

    Before you can do things for people, you must be the kind of man who can get things done. But to get things done, you must love the doing, not the people!
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