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    Quote Originally Posted by FlaGator View Post
    Where do your individual rights come from?
    The US Constitution and a governmental system based on a great deal of commitment to that document. Our system runs on faith, but not faith in a god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    The US Constitution and a governmental system based on a great deal of commitment to that document. Our system runs on faith, but not faith in a god.
    Faith needs an object, what is your faith in?
    The difference between pigs and people is that when they tell you you're cured it isn't a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    Excellent. No one should have a problem with putting a Nativity scene in a public park for a couple weeks each year then. No legislation is required to do so and no one is forced to believe what it represents.
    This is all leading up to the war on Christmas bullshit, isn't it?
    Well, here in Florida we have Christian/pagan/Jewish iconography on public property in several places in Pinellas alone.

    There is a creche in Straub Park, Christmas trees in Vinoy Park, and 25 foot tall Christmas candles on the breakwater at the yacht basin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    The US Constitution and a governmental system based on a great deal of commitment to that document. Our system runs on faith, but not faith in a god.
    Answer my question.
    The difference between pigs and people is that when they tell you you're cured it isn't a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    The US Constitution and a governmental system based on a great deal of commitment to that document. Our system runs on faith, but not faith in a god.
    So you would say that without the Government you have no rights?

    I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReinMan View Post
    False dichotomy.

    A secularist/atheist society and theocracy are not the only two options. They are simply extremes at either end of a spectrum.

    To suggest that if we are not one, we must be the other, is either intellectually lazy or dishonest.

    You pick.

    (See, I can do that, too!)
    As could I, you werent paying attention to the thread. As for secular/athesist/theoracy there are many options; both England and Isreal are constitutional theoracies yet secular...see secularism and atheistism don't have to be lumped together but we are not a constitution theoracy nor are we a nation base on any athiest premises that I know of therefore if not secular then what are we? I'll wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlaGator View Post
    So you would say that without the Government you have no rights?
    If not then why have a Bill of Rights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    Faith needs an object, what is your faith in?
    Good point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterS View Post
    Good point!
    Apparently he doesn't want to divulge that information, without it his post makes little to no sense.
    The difference between pigs and people is that when they tell you you're cured it isn't a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterS View Post
    If not then why have a Bill of Rights?
    So if the government decides to kill all the jews they can get their hands on then that would be OK because it is the government who gives them their right to exist?

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