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12-11-2012, 02:51 PM
Here we agree. I think every group that gets upset, Christians included, blows this shit way out of proportion. I could maybe understand someone getting upset because of a "Jesus in a Manger" display at a public school or something. But even that is a simple fix that doesn't need bullshit like the ACLU. The problem is that there is a lot of anti-Christian sentiment and I really don't get it. I understand Christianity has always been the most practiced religion in America but that doesn't mean everyone is trying to make a Christian nation. When these displays are up, today's society jumps right to the conclusion that the Christians "want to convert everyone!" Definitely not helping any. I hate atheists just as much as you, tx.
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12-11-2012, 03:06 PM
Believe it don't believe it. Its up to you. But the facts are what I stated above.
He also wrote the Virginia state constitution and if you think there's not enough seperation in the US Constitution...you'll hate the Virginia one.
Again I'll ask...what is the official religion of the United States?
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12-11-2012, 03:16 PM
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12-11-2012, 03:21 PM
Just because you say they are facts do not make them facts. Jefferson in the exact same statement where he explains we have a law (the 1st Amendment) also explains that it means we have a seperation of church and state. You cannot look at that any other way. Spin it all you want, the fact is he is talking about the 1st Amendment.
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12-11-2012, 03:32 PM
Like I have said, it is not in the 1st Amendment. It is in Thomas Jefferson's explanation, or description, of the 1st Amendment as written in the letter to Danbury. I brought it up because someone said that "seperation of church and state" was never said. I added a technicality.
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12-11-2012, 03:36 PM
You are correct. The U.S. Government doesn't endorse a religion. And right there is where the FF's intended the words "Congress shall pass no law..." to end in regards to the 1st Amendment.
It wasn't intended for what the anti Religion zealots have turned it into.
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