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12-02-2012, 02:58 PM
Again, you're dancing around the point. The point is, those things I mentioned were heralded by the left and the so called secular progressives as pieces of art and were free to be shown in a public forum(in the case of the Virgin Mary surrounded by elephant dung a vaginas cut from flick books was on display at a tax payer funded museum). When Christians spoke out against these works of art, they were told essentially to shut up and that displaying those pieces of garbage were protected by the first amendment. Again, these blasphemous works of "art" were put on display in a publicaly owned museum which in my book is no different than a Nativity scene in a city park so again I ask, why is it OK to display images mocking or blaspheming religious icons and yet it isn't OK to put up a Nativity scene or the 10 commandments in a public area? If you don't see the difference between the 2 then you are being intellectually dishonest in this discussion.
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12-02-2012, 02:59 PM
You're speaking out against the showing of religious icons so you must have some interest in it or you would have simply blown off the conversation. You're like those people who say they have no interest in or care politics and yet will argue fervently for their choice of candidate.
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12-02-2012, 03:41 PM
Art is by its nature political and is historically paid for and displayed by both private and government patrons, not the least of which has been the Catholic Church both as government and cultural feif. A museum and a school are not the same thing at all. A museum serves alcohol, a primary school does not. Colleges are publicly supported, even the private ones, and there is speech allowed there which would be prohibited in a public K-12.
Religion is also political, and as I am certain you would disapprove of a an elementary school assembly which promotes that the Pilgrims were murdering conquerors (as would I) then you would also object to promoting religion in the school.
The only issue here is whether the girl reading her poem amounts to promotion. I naturally would suspect that like so many of these hobgoblin events the child was coached. But my suspicion isn't based in anything other than propensity which isn't fair to the individual. So I would say that this child and this poem were not objectionable. However, that 8 year old shouting evangelist who seems to think he was the Ernest Angely of the fourth grade is another matter. Kids imitating Elvis is cute. Kids exhibiting zealotry is disturbing because it's affected and inflicted.While you were hanging yourself , on someone else's words
Dying to believe in what you heard
I was staring straight into the shining sun
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12-03-2012, 01:10 AM
So in other words you're too much of a coward to answer the question I asked and are asking for distractions and sidesteps. Sorry, I don't like to play the game. Either you're a secular progressive who sees a problem with a simple Nativity scene placed in a public park but doesn't see a problem is said Nativity scene was pissed on in the name of art or you simply like to stir the shitstorm. It would be much easier if you admitted this and we moved on.
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12-03-2012, 03:15 PM
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12-03-2012, 04:49 PM
Someone ask for his "opnion"? Where did you last see it?
...........Still looking up definition of "editoral".....nothing so far.......
OK. Moving on to "offence".........nothing...."picket fence, maybe....no "of fence"...............OH! Here it is!....found it under "stonewalling"....
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12-03-2012, 06:47 PM
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
—Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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