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    Quote Originally Posted by Madisonian View Post
    ...what event in American politics took place in January 2007...
    I know they gave 110 percent in trashing the country they did.
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    Over 88 to 100 million people not in the work force. How again is this administration creating jobs?

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/a...-not-have-jobs

    . According to the Federal Reserve, the number of unemployed workers in America is currently 12,673,000. If you dig deeper into the numbers you quickly see that this is not true. A lot of those workers that were formerly classified as "unemployed" have now been moved into the "not in labor force" category. Since the start of the last recession, the number of Americans not in the labor force has risen by more than 8 million according to the Obama administration. The total number of working age Americans not in the labor force now stands at 87,897,000....



    So when you add 12,673,000 and 87,897,000, you get a total of 100,570,000 working age Americans that do not have jobs.

    Yes, there are certainly millions upon millions of working age Americans that do not have jobs and that do not want jobs.

    But you have to be delusional to believe that there are nearly 88 million working age Americans that do not have jobs and that do not want jobs


    12,500,000 unemployed workers plus 88,419,000 Americans that are "not in the labor force" equals 100,919,000 working age Americans that do not have jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    This isn't communism. We still have businesses and open markets. History shows that any time somebody came up with an idea to help those less fortunate (the New Deal, Medicare), there was always somebody there to claim it was communism.
    The New Deal and Medicare...part of the Great Society were HUGE leaps towards Communism. Obama is trying to take us left in a way that hasn't been tried since FDR and LBJ.

    No the way markets are regulated it's not open and free...it's cronyism on the level of China.

    You yourself said you were glad the "free" market was more regulated.

    Both can't operate at the same time in the same space.

    What you and 44 and the rest of the Libs are wanting...CRAVING is Communism.

    And that is evil.

    How many times has this country worked with Britain, Australia, Israel, and others of a similar government? They all have set ups you all would consider to be communist.
    No they have givernments based in Socialism. And all three work of parlimentary systems of Government. Big difference.

    Not surprised as a techer you failt to notice the difference.



    I think I responded to your facts. I'm talking about the fact that you told me to repent and find myself a conservative man. I don't want a conservative man, not if they're going to declare I'm evil. They can't declare that I'm evil unless we're role playing.
    No decent Conservative man would date you...so you don't have to worry about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    You know what my first job was coming out of college? It last a few weeks. Trying to talk people into financing for a house when they probably couldn't get it because of their credit. If they could get it, the interest would be way too high. My own boss admitted it was bull, and I had to leave. Bush could have tried to regulate some of it, but he didn't.



    The unemployment rate is higher partially because of extended benefits. Otherwise, they'd be considered discouraged workers and not counting on the charts, just like some of them did under Bush. Thousands of jobs were being lost a month under Bush by the end. That's not growth. We didn't want more years of Bush's economical ideas.




    The tax cut for social security taxes expired. I don't mind this because we keep talking about saving social security. Why would we be taking money out of it to give people a tax break? Social Security is NOT an entitlement. The elderly worked their entire lives. They deserve it. At least I know where my money is going on this one. That's more than I can say when I pay taxes in my conservative state. I have no clue where that goes.



    Actually, mine personally went up. For the first time ever, I've been working a job with middle class wages. That didn't happen under Bush. I don't know how many times I was told under Bush to be thankful I even had my minimum wage job.




    Which Bush started by putting a war on the credit card. Whoever heard of lowering taxes during a war? Higher taxes can go toward paying off some of the debt. BTW, Republicans are not helping when they insist on money for the military that they don't ask for. So, we've pulled out of Iraq. That should help keep us from getting more into debt. We're working on getting out of Afghanistan, which will do the same. And no, I'm not saying defund the military, but they're not even asking for that money. Republicans were not helping when they put our federal money into abstinience only programs years ago.




    But be honest, who were the house fighting so hard for? It was NOT for 80% of the country. It was for the rich.




    You act like we started the class warfare. Reagan started it when he wrongly labeled people as welfare queens (when most of them were really single mothers trying to survive). Bush claimed that we just wanted to punish the rich for being rich. Romney claimed we all just wanted to mooch. I think the Republicans started this crap. Don't pretend your side is innocent.




    What I want is a balanced approach where we pay taxes to help the debt. Give tax breaks where it's needed. That would be the poor, but it would also be to companies promising to hire more people or at least not let go of who they have. I want an approach that keeps companies from going overseas. I want regulation in our companies, but not too far.

    I want so called entitlement programs, but I also want more programs helping people get off of them. Bush didn't fight for that. Obama did. He encouraged more education to help people get the skills they need to get a job.

    So to sum it up, everything bad that ever happened in your life was Bush's fault.

    Your posts are so full of lies I won't waste my time.

    I also want more programs helping people get off of them. Bush didn't fight for that. Obama did. He encouraged more education to help people get the skills they need to get a job
    Clinton made people work or go to college to continue getting welfare benefits. Obama stopped this.

    Stop with the lies.....

    Oh yeah....your lies are Bush's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txradioguy View Post

    No decent Conservative man would date you...so you don't have to worry about that.


    You weren't desent enough to answer my question. lol.

    You are so a waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madisonian View Post
    Everyone, including our dear Lanie, points to 2007 as the start of the recent fall in our economy.
    Now for the history majors out there, what event in American politics took place in January 2007 which again, almost every economic graph confirms, coincides with this date?

    For some help, here is the U6 graph.

    Yep, and the Dem congress is responsible for it. But yet they are insisting it was the Repub congress that did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobJohnson View Post
    So to sum it up, everything bad that ever happened in your life was Bush's fault.

    Your posts are so full of lies I won't waste my time.



    Clinton made people work or go to college to continue getting welfare benefits. Obama stopped this.

    Stop with the lies.....

    Oh yeah....your lies are Bush's fault.
    Considering the fact that you twisted the words of my post, I'd say you're the liar.

    I guess if you personally blame Obama for something, then you're blaming everything bad that ever happened in your life on him.

    My point was that this idea that everybody's wages went down under Obama is bull. Mine went up for the past year.

    As for Obama and college.

    http://www.prlog.org/10644608-obama-...o-college.html

    Who is mostly on welfare? Single moms.

    I'll answer some of the others later. That is if they know how to debate without getting personal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    You weren't desent enough to answer my question. lol.
    There was a question in all that babbling?

    You are so a waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    Considering the fact that you twisted the words of my post, I'd say you're the liar.
    Gotcha...so now quoting you is akin to twisting your words?

    Typical Libtard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patriot45 View Post
    Duh, here on Earth we know that higher taxes are not going to be used to pay down debt. It will be used to get more losers to vote DUmmy. Stop spending on the moochers!
    Precisely. As Jim Rohn put it, "If you rob Peter to give to Paul, you will always have the support of Paul." This is exactly how Obama got re-elected.
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