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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    There is not as much energy in a gallon of LNG as a gallon of diesel, unless you have your own gas well it will cost you more to operate.
    True. That's why LNG is sold in Diesel Gallon Equivalent (DGE) units.

    I have a propane powered truck and all i would need is a different tank to use LNG instead of propane,
    True again. Sort of. The tanks are being manufactured by Westport Manufacturing, as are the engine controls.
    http://www.westport.com/news/2012/we...ral-gas-trucks
    But to compete with heavy duty applications, the truck would have to act and feel just like a diesel fuel powered truck. It would have to go 700 miles between fill-ups and have all the power I had in my DD-15. To meet that requirement, there is a 15 liter High Pressure Direct Injection (HPDI) based on the Cummins ISX. Shipment of the fully developed LNG trucks will start in 2013.

    If you go to Clean Air, you will see where they have partnered with Flying J and Pilot to establish refueling facilities. They built 70 of them in 2012 (on standby, since the trucks are not out yet), and will build another 70 in 2013. T/A truckstops has a different partner, but they are doing the same thing.

    I think as soon as the trucks prove themselves to be more profitable than the diesel fuel trucks the industry will make a huge shift. Maybe, 2015 (?) After all, we're talking a 15-20 cent per mile advantage.

    Here's another CNN article:
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/07/us/tru...ure/index.html

    And all without Obama's help.
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    Hey Lanie - even a prize moonbat like The Masturbating Nematode sees the holes in that BS and then futilely tries to spin it to save face for his The Deified One:

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    In Reality The Job Market Is Shrinking And So Are Wages



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    You really cannot blame Obama for it but the job market is shrinking as it grows. And the brutal truth that the MSM is deliberately ignoring is that FULL TIME jobs are disappearing and being replaced by PART TIME, TEMPORARY and CONTRACT JOBS. The end of the full time job more most American workers is approaching. And it is a creation of big business and corporate CEOs to feather their nests at the expense of worker who create their wealth for them.

    When the business community talks about multiple careers that are not just talking about 7 0r 8 careers in a lifetime they are talking about 3 or 4 careers at that same time. That is they are talking about 3 or 4 different part time jobs that might be totally different careers. The dirt is in the details.

    Welcome to the new Reagan economy when all this mayhem was hatched. If old way of employing people are NOT coming back as the business mantra goes our youth are screwed and so are we.

    It is the fault of the worker who continues to accept the business rhetorical tripe. By staying anti labor and anti union for so long and refusing to vote for more progressive agendas, the working class is dooming itself. Conservative attitudes toward labor policy is what has allowed business and industry to create the "RAW DEAL" that has replaced the original "SOCIAL CONTRACT" where workers got a fairer share of the wealth they create through full time secure and long term employment.

    That is the only way that workers have chance to build a decent life for themselves and their families.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022222382
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