01-05-2013, 10:19 PM
That's great Lanie.
Fredo enjoys a pittance in job growth, during an economic recovery no less. Bush had to deal with 9/11 and the housing crisis (no matter whose fault it was *cough*Democrats*cough).
Unemployment is still at 7.8% (terrible). Growth is about 2% (terrible). Your taxes just went up. Your wages went down during the recovery (regardless of the tax increase). Unimaginable and unfathomable crushing debt. And increasing. Worst creator of debt for any human being in any country at any point in history. Yearly deficit at $1.2 Trillion and climbing. Just raised taxes on 80+% of the country when he told us (and lied obviously) that he would only raise taxes on the top 2%. That class warfare lying SOB bullshit gave him a second term. You bought it, not me. No spending cuts offered, in spite of his "balanced approach" bullshit. No entitlements reform. Wants unfettered access to the debt ceiling for the next two years. Gas and food prices higher than ever.
Should I continue? Is this what you want for the country? Is this the path we should be on...practically no economic growth and the expansion of government...at your expense? If that's what you want, congrats, you got it.Be Not Afraid.
#14 Surprise! Obama Is Creating More New Jobs Than George W. Bush01-06-2013, 09:31 AM
In reality she's just as hard left as her brethren at the DUmp.
She "sided with evil" because what 44 stands for is what she believes in too. She just tries to wrap it in a sugary coating hoping we don't notice.
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01-06-2013, 01:55 PM
Good point. I personally think employers are being cruel jerks for their attitudes. A lot of them got the nerve to look down on those who don't have work all the while they refuse to hire somebody who isn't working. It sort of makes me not feel sorry for them when they undergo burdens such as taxes. Truth is if they'd look at the applicant's resume and past work, they'd find that they either did have the right skill set or were not far from it. People talk about on the job training. That's almost a thing of the past. Truth is if the factory work was still here, employers would require a degree to do the job. Then, they'll complain because they don't have any employees. I'm just feeling less and less sympathy toward employers. If you're an employer who isn't like that, then I'm not talking about you.
As for my original argument, this isn't about the unemployment rate so much as it was about the actual job growth. More new jobs were created under Obama than under Bush. Not to mention when Bush got out of office, jobs were being lost as an unusually high amount.
In December, the number of unemployed persons increased by 632,000 to 11.1 million and the unemployment rate rose to 7.2 percent. Since the start of the recession in December 2007, the number of unemployed persons has grown by 3.6 million, and the unemployment rate has risen by 2.3 percentage points.
The number of unemployed persons increased by 861,000 to 8.5 million in May.
A year earlier, the number of unemployed persons was 6.9 million, and the jobless rate was 4.5 percent.
The unemployment rates for adult men, adult women, teenagers, whites, and blacks rose in May. The jobless rate for Hispanics was unchanged.
Among the unemployed, the number of reentrants and new entrants to the labor force rose in May, by 326,000 and 204,000, respectively.
The number of persons who had lost their last job increased by 268,000 over the month to 4.3 million. Over the past 12 months, the number of unemployed job losers has risen by 907,000.
These data are from the Current Population Survey program and are seasonally adjusted. To learn more, see "The Employment Situation: May 2008," (HTML) (PDF) news release USDL 08-0757.
So, we were losing jobs and losing jobs in 2008. It couldn't be ignored anymore. As for lower rates during earlier Bush years, keep in mind there were discouraged workers then as well. With Obama pushing for unemployment extensions and Bush doing no such thing, of course his unemployment rate will appear higher than Bush's. Those people who have extended benefits are not considered discouraged workers in the eyes of economists yet.
Overview of the recession from 2007-2009. Notice whose watch this was under for the most part.
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01-06-2013, 02:03 PM
And with the way you, Rock, and Tx are acting in this thread, I'd rather go the rest of my life without ever having sex than have a conservative man.
Why is it that if I'm "good," even compliment you on occasion, you don't have one word to say to me, but you come out of the woodwork if I do something you don't like? It's like you're waiting for my liberal side to come out so you can jump out of the bushes.In memory of Ahmed Merabet, Rafael Ramos, and Wenjian Liu.
01-06-2013, 02:17 PM
Unemployment is still at 7.8% (terrible). Growth is about 2% (terrible).
That class warfare lying SOB bullshit gave him a second term. You bought it, not me. No spending cuts offered, in spite of his "balanced approach" bullshit. No entitlements reform. Wants unfettered access to the debt ceiling for the next two years. Gas and food prices higher than ever.
Should I continue? Is this what you want for the country? Is this the path we should be on...practically no economic growth and the expansion of government...at your expense? If that's what you want, congrats, you got it.
I want so called entitlement programs, but I also want more programs helping people get off of them. Bush didn't fight for that. Obama did. He encouraged more education to help people get the skills they need to get a job.In memory of Ahmed Merabet, Rafael Ramos, and Wenjian Liu.
01-06-2013, 02:59 PM
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Lanie has struck back! RUN!!
OK. But I'd still like to hear the response to my post, which you must have missed......I guess.
A solid argument, is, after all, a solid argument. And if you have an argument to present I'd like to hear it. Who knows? You might be able to convert me to an Obama fan.
01-06-2013, 03:11 PM
Meaningless bullshit, Lanie, and if you actually thought it through you'd know it (Of course, being that you're a Liberal, I realize that actually analyzing one of your Party's talking points is alien to your thought process, like asking a Eurotrash soccer fan what his cheer really means). "Saved or created" is as meaningless and devoid of real content as calling Obama policies "Tastes great, less filling!" By that kind of retarded claim, everyone who had a job when Bush took office and still had one when he left would be a job Bush 'Saved,' and the 'Created' part includes every Christmas temp and 60-day construction boondoggle job in the last four years...even if the SAME PERSON might have held four or five of those 'Obama-created' jobs in that time.
I don't think you're gonna have to worry about that sex with a Conservative man thing too much, brainless cheerleading stops being attractive when the woman doing it gets out of her mid-twenties and loses the cheerleader body.
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