Thread: Who's Whining Now?
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09-25-2008, 07:54 PM
I'm not agreeing with everything Gramm said, but there's no doubt in my mind that we have a lower pain threshold today, than perhaps at any other time in our history.
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09-25-2008, 07:56 PM
At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
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09-25-2008, 08:07 PM
You seem like a serious guy, Lager andI agree with you that, perhaps because of the increased speed of communications, today's crisis seems larger than it is, compared with previous ones. However, to use convenient measures like "the misery index" to compare today's time to that of 30 years ago is also facetious.
Finally, I'm not all that sure that our grandparents during the Depression had such a high threshold of pain. They just dealt with what they had to deal with, as shall we.
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09-25-2008, 08:19 PM
How conveniently people forget this:
Baby Boomers Got the Blues
Viewing Life Through Morose-Colored Glasses
The baby boomers -- that prominent group of middle-agers whose massive numbers invite never-ending dissection and speculation -- have once again spoken. What they have said is, " Waaaaaahhh."
This is according to a social and demographic trends survey released recently by the Pew Research Center. The survey measured the pessimism, dissatisfaction and general curmudgeonliness of 2,413 adults in various generations.The results validate any member of the Greatest Generation who ever looked at his or her offspring and sadly thought, "soft." Simply put, boomers are a bunch of . . . whiners.
The Pew poll was released June 25th. It received a lot of publicity. We even talked about it here.
Gramm made his remark on July 9th
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09-25-2008, 08:26 PM
I'm just saying that the phrase was "in the air"
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09-25-2008, 09:09 PM
Taverner (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-23-08 12:52 PM
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Capitalism has Failed. Is it time to seize the means of production yet?
This goes on every 10-20 years. The economy crumbles, and people lose jobs, the rich get richer, and the coffers get emptied into rich people's pockets. Yay!
So why don't people get it through their thick skulls: Capitalism has Failed. Epic Fail. It will fail again, and again. This is a margin call, basically. The rich want our money, and something like this comes along to wipe us all out.
The rich never liked the Middle Class anyway - they are more informed than the poor and they vote. So Capitalism is a tool to eradicate the Middle Class.
Think about what made the Middle Class - it wasn't tax cuts. It was programs, SOCIALIST programs like the G I Bill, like Pell Grants, and Public Works programs. It wasn't Bush's Tax Cuts, and it wasn't invading any country that has resources we want.
So tell me - when can we seize the means of production and start singing the Internationale. I'm ready...-
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In actual dollars, President Obama’s $4.4 trillion in deficit spending in just three years is 37 percent higher than the previous record of $3.2 trillion (held by President George W. Bush) in deficit spending for an entire presidency. It’s no small feat to demolish an 8-year record in just 3 years.
Under Obama’s own projections, interest payments on the debt are on course to triple from 2010 (his first budgetary year) to 2018, climbing from $196 billion to $685 billion annually.
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