Obama Eliminates Breakfast for US Troops in Afghanistan

[SaintLouieWoman]

If they want to cut costs...they need to start at places like Kandahar and Kabul where you have 6-7 DFACS in addition to fast food vendors...before they start cutting services at the forward areas.

Another cost cutting idea---cut back on that lobster for Michelle O and perhaps lower the costs at the WH for the food for the O's and their pals. They could probably feed all the military in Afghanistan with those savngs. (and yes, Nova, I haven't done the math, just trying to make a point).

[txradioguy]

Except that the FOBs are the first to shut down in this kind of drawdown and it costs more to run food service out there. The economy of scale for having multiple DFACs in one location is significant, especially when you factor in the way that drawn down units will go through those big bases when they redeploy. This isn't about saving money. Democrats don't care about that. It's about demonstrating that we are subordinate to them and punishing the troops.
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BINGO! And in reality...somewhere there's an MKT going unused that could be put to use.

[Novaheart]

The decision to withdraw precipitously was Obama's, therefore the effects are his.

So the objection is actually to the withdrawal? Or to anything Obama does?

[txradioguy]

So the objection is actually to the withdrawal? Or to anything Obama does?

Strawman

[noonwitch]

So the objection is actually to the withdrawal? Or to anything Obama does?

I think you know the answer without even asking it.

[Odysseus]

So the objection is actually to the withdrawal? Or to anything Obama does?

The withdrawal is gutless and guarantees that we will be back there again, but taking meals from the troops is just despicable.

I think you know the answer without even asking it.

You certainly seem to think that you know what's in my head. Why don't you explain why you favor this before attacking those of us who've been there? Your kneejerk defense of Obama is becoming tedious.

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[Elspeth]

This is true. The elimination of cooks at all levels saved money in peacetime, but became expensive during wartime. It was a classic case of saving pennies and then shelling out dollars.

It also adds security concerns. Whenever you have a third party civilian contractor you take a greater risk of hiring a saboteur. You also take a greater risk of the contractor acting in its own interests and not in that of the troops. Add Congress to the mix, wanting their districts to benefit from Federal pork, and you have a recipe for risky inefficiency on the front lines. The military is made for war and national security. They should be allowed to operate as such, even if it costs a few extra dollars in peacetime.


(I remember when Rumsfeld put food and water privatization (read: Halliburton) on the table. The real defense people I knew were flabbergasted that a Secretary of Defense would increase the risk of supply line sabotage on troops in the battlefield.)

[Odysseus]

It also adds security concerns. Whenever you have a third party civilian contractor you take a greater risk of hiring a saboteur. You also take a greater risk of the contractor acting in its own interests and not in that of the troops. Add Congress to the mix, wanting their districts to benefit from Federal pork, and you have a recipe for risky inefficiency on the front lines. The military is made for war and national security. They should be allowed to operate as such, even if it costs a few extra dollars in peacetime.


(I remember when Rumsfeld put food and water privatization (read: Halliburton) on the table. The real defense people I knew were flabbergasted that a Secretary of Defense would increase the risk of supply line sabotage on troops in the battlefield.)

It wasn't Rumsfeld, it was Les Aspen. Halliburton has had the LOGCAP contract since the mid -90s and this kind of contracting was in place when the US went into the Balkans.

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[txradioguy]

It wasn't Rumsfeld, it was Les Aspen. Halliburton has had the LOGCAP contract since the mid -90s and this kind of contracting was in place when the US went into the Balkans.

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I clearly remember Brown and Root operating in Somalia in 1993...in the pre KBR days.

Billy Jeff was doing no bid contracts with them as well...back before those kind of deals became evil.

[Adam Wood]

What do you think the troops would eat for breakfast if they were at home?

Do you really not get that being deployed in Afghanistan is absolutely nothing like being at home, going in to work at the base for eight hours a day and then going home again? Seriously? The dietary needs between the two are MILES apart.


One of you Army guys: whats the "correct" caloric intake for someone who is deployed to an active zone these days? 3300 calories or something like that?