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    Quote Originally Posted by Articulate_Ape View Post
    We are fucking broke, my friend. We have zero money...Unless we radically change the role that the federal government plays in our lives we will not only lose our liberty under the heavy hand of tyranny, we will be a third world tyranny amidst a world of third world tyrannies.

    In short, it's the economy, stupid.
    Then instead of telling the Right to stay out of your bedroom you should be telling the Left to stay out of your wallet.

    As I've previously stated about disregarding social issues:

    All that would do is let the Dems define the social issues. Look beyond your hatred of religion and see why that would be a disaster.

    Stay out of the bedroom? Fine. No more gay pride parades, free condoms at schools, don't bother me about paying for your pill or Plan B, defund Planned Parenthood immediately and return the legality of abortion to the states....for starters.
    If you want nothing to do with social issues then denounce those I just listed, otherwise you give them tacit approval.
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    Rand Paul is too much like his father, who failed repeatedly to learn from his mistakes. Ron Paul is and was a fringe kook, yes he had some good ideas, but his affiliations with the lunatic fringe and his general adherence to doctrines that were decades old didnt help him. Rand Paul is too involved with Alex Jones, and that connection on its own is enough to give anyone pause.

    No serious contender for the Presidency can allow themselves to be seen or be involved in someone who advocates that "9/11 was "an inside job". I am aware that as a conservative, he has a lot going for him. Problem is that as long as he is involved or connected to people like this, his credibility is in question. His father accepted donations from StormFront, was photographed with the founder of StormFront and whilst I accept and agree he does not suibscribe to their beliefs...it was a bonehead move, and that he has not rescinded or returned those donations, is a fait accompli that StormFront can claim he is 'their candidate".

    A candidate, even by derivation, "endorsed" by these people calls his judgement into question. He needs to denounce and disown them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    Then instead of telling the Right to stay out of your bedroom you should be telling the Left to stay out of your wallet.

    As I've previously stated about disregarding social issues:


    If you want nothing to do with social issues then denounce those I just listed, otherwise you give them tacit approval.
    Look, I am in agreement with you on social issues, but I'm afraid they are gonna be moot when our government collapses and you are crushing some guy's head with a baseball bat to get the energy bars and bottled water in his backpack before he can stab you with a keyhole saw to get the toilet paper you have in yours.
    "Our president delivered his State of the Union message to Congress. That is one of the things his contract calls for -- to tell congress the condition of the country. This message, as I say, is to Congress. The rest of the people know the condition of the country, for they live in it, but Congress has no idea what is going on in America, so the president has to tell 'em." ~ Will Rogers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnabend View Post
    No.

    Rand Paul is too much like his father, who failed repeatedly to learn from his mistakes. Ron Paul is and was a fringe kook, yes he had some good ideas, but his affiliations with the lunatic fringe and his general adherence to doctrines that were decades old didnt help him. Rand Paul is too involved with Alex Jones, and that connection on its own is enough to give anyone pause.

    No serious contender for the Presidency can allow themselves to be seen or be involved in someone who advocates that "9/11 was "an inside job". I am aware that as a conservative, he has a lot going for him. Problem is that as long as he is involved or connected to people like this, his credibility is in question. His father accepted donations from StormFront, was photographed with the founder of StormFront and whilst I accept and agree he does not suibscribe to their beliefs...it was a bonehead move, and that he has not rescinded or returned those donations, is a fait accompli that StormFront can claim he is 'their candidate".

    A candidate, even by derivation, "endorsed" by these people calls his judgement into question. He needs to denounce and disown them.
    I basically agree with all of that.
    "Our president delivered his State of the Union message to Congress. That is one of the things his contract calls for -- to tell congress the condition of the country. This message, as I say, is to Congress. The rest of the people know the condition of the country, for they live in it, but Congress has no idea what is going on in America, so the president has to tell 'em." ~ Will Rogers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Articulate_Ape View Post
    ...when our government collapses...to get the toilet paper you have in yours.
    True. When the collapse gets here the man that controls the TP will control the people.
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