And, make no mistake about it, this is not just about principals, but about maintaining any semblance of competitive edge. Industrial espionage is a huge business, and forcing companies to take on obvious security risks guarantees that they will be vulnerable to leaks, theft and even sabotage.
Roomie A - Was convicted at age 18 of a huge drug crime because he was arrested at a concert with a stash of pills that because each pill is considered a unit for sale landed him some dreadful state prison for three years. He went in a pretty blond suburban youth who had done something stupid (albeit not uncommon amongst suburban youth) and came out damaged. He went on to graduate fro Northwestern only to find out that Americans with psychology degrees who speak fluent German and graduate in the top half of their class can't find work in a therapeutic environment because of a felony drug conviction. He works in a zoo for minimum wage. PS- he can't pay his student loans.
Roomie B - Was damaged before he got arrested. I would say that he has at a minimum ADHD and possibly a couple of other popular personality disorders which is how he ended up in prison. He had joined a commune that turned him into a slave. When he popped, he attacked someone in the commune and was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon. He's strange, but he's not a danger to society and yet the "zero tolerance" mentality that we have in this country means that in certain occupations and workplaces the person hiring has no discretion.
Both of your examples got them busted and sent to jail (and rightfully so)......tough s**t.......they should have considered the consequences before the actions. Each of us has to wrestle our own demons, and conquer them to succeed, and everyone also has something in their past that they would have done differently......you people need to grow up and stop making excuses for peoples failings.
I'm responsible for my own actions, as is everyone else........cry me a river......
Aren't we really talking about the ability of someone convicted of a nonviolent crime being able to get a job on the loading dock?
Seriously, we complain about black men not working and this is a big reason why many black men can't find jobs. There is a race issue here.
Example- my cousin has a son who did many things to destroy his future. There are suspected causes for his behavior (like the fact that my cousin's exwife is a worthless POS) but society is unconcerned by causes. In any event, he got into trouble for drugs a couple of times. He went to jail. He got out. My cousin laid out some serious conditions under which he would attempt to rescue his son's life and son agreed.... and went to work for my cousin's business. The pool of black parents who have businesses which can offer employment to an otherwise unemployable child is much smaller than it is for whites. This is what people mean when they talk about the legacy of racism or institutional racism.
Over all, I think that the white guys in prison who manage to get out with their good looks and charm in tact have a much better chance of finding someone to take a chance on them than almost any black guy convicted of a similar crime.
No, life isn't fair. I get that. At the same time, it wouldn't hurt to try to find a way to help these people. Punishing employers isn't the right way to go about it, but there has to be a way.
It costs an average of $30K/inmate/year to incarcerate. Parolees and releaseds who can't find work have a habit of ending up back in jail.
The point isn't that it's someone else's fault. These people are quite aware that they broke the law. But the punishment was supposed to be for 3 years, you know, that "I paid my debt to society." thing. But people like you seem to want people to pay for life and in the process you are pretty much guaranteeing that the taxpayer is the one who pays for life.
This is not a new discussion. It used to be that a felon couldn't get a realtor license. IN a classic joke on society, prisons taught guys to be barbers but when you got out the state wouldn't license a felon as a barber.
We're talking about millions of people of working age. My lawn guy and helper is a convicted felon. While I enjoy his cheap labor, at some point he will become a burden on society because he's paying no taxes and has no health care.
The entire argument about "institutional racism" and blacks, is simply bulls**t...... The nasty little secret that the media will never cover is the FBI crime statistics, i.e., black males (6% of the population) commit more than half the violent crimes in the US (murder, assult, rape, armed robbery). If black males between the ages of 14 and 45 were to magically disappear from the US, our crime statistics would be simliar to Finland.......
Black or white, if they are in prison, it is because a "jury of their peers" put them there. The system doesn't always work smoothly, or correctly, but it is the best system yet devised.
The prison population isn't a race problem, it's a culture problem, and it's not up to me to fix that issue, they have to do it for themselves.......I'm not optimistic......
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