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  1. #1 TRUMP, LEVIN RIGHT ABOUT ROVE 
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    If you’re a donor or potential donor to Karl Rove’s group American Crossroads, I recommend you listen to Mark Levin’s recent interview with Donald Trump, because they disclosed some long overdue truths that needed to be said.

    Trump and Levin made several points that donors, the media, and the political class can no longer ignore and frankly should have picked up on long ago. When you see the facts all laid out, you’ll be asking yourself the same question as Levin: “I would say to the wealthy donors out there, why do you keep donating to him?”

    The first point Trump makes is exhibit one in the case against Rove and something people should never, ever forget: “You know it was really Karl Rove who gave us Obama.” Mr. Trump is exactly right. The next time someone says Karl Rove is a political genius, just remember that his disastrous decisions during the Bush Administration paved the way for President Obama’s election, Obamacare’s implementation, and our unsustainable $16 trillion national debt.

    The truth is that the only times in politics when the political pendulum swings that far in either direction is when things get really, really awful under the sitting president. What largely caused that political situation was Karl Rove’s wrongheaded advice to George W. Bush. Let’s also be honest about Rove being the architect of Bush’s two victories. Barely beating atrocious candidates like Al Gore and John Kerry is not exactly a heavy lift or something to brag about, because he nearly let both get away.

    Mr. Trump’s second point was about Rove’s “lousy record” when it comes to the candidates he backed in 2012. Moderate, establishment candidates who were backed by Rove got crushed nearly across the board. Rove’s support of establishment candidates isn’t surprising; these are the people who come to Washington and don’t change a thing – exactly what Rove wants. Levin went on to make the point that Rove’s attacks on conservatives and the Tea Party are peculiar when you consider that the only reason the U.S. House went back to Republican control is because of Tea Party turnout in the 2010 midterm elections: “In 2006 they lost the Senate and the House when Rove was in charge, they haven’t gotten it back except in 2010 thanks to the Tea Party,” Levin said.

    The third point Trump made was perhaps the most devastating: “They took $400 million of money that people put up to fight and they made the worst ads I’ve ever seen.”

    The hundreds of millions in television ads Crossroads ran during the 2012 election had virtually zero impact. Donors trusted Rove to produce ads that were both innovative and effective and they got neither. Weak ads from one state to the next were placed on television and they failed miserably. “$400 million was wasted,” Trump went on to say. He’s exactly right, and what a shame it is.

    This is personal for Trump because he was a $50,000 donor to Crossroads in 2010. That money could have been put to good use if it was given to groups with fresh ideas. So the next time you consider stroking a check to a Rove-controlled group, just remember what Donald Trump already knows: “Karl Rove, I just think he’s one of the most overrated people in politics.”

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    Interesting, thoughtful points, but Trump himself is a liability for whatever he supports. I tend to dismiss whatever he says.
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    I totally agree with them. As for Trump... even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    There is more to this which hopefully will come out later, concerning Rove and his merry band of rino's on the Hill, who love to flex their collective genius while applying a boot on the neck of conservatives and tea party types.

    Its going to be an uphill battle as American Pravda loves the republican losers such as Rove and will side with him given a choice. Even Dems will side with these losers. Its important that we speak out. Kudos to Levin and Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    Interesting, thoughtful points, but Trump himself is a liability for whatever he supports. I tend to dismiss whatever he says.
    I think Trump's pissed because 50K of his money went for nothing.
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    I've been listening to Mike Savage, the Savage Nation, on talk radio and he HATES Rove with a passion. Calls him a traitor, I haven't read anything that back it up, but I'm sure he'll explain his comment on night on his show.
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    I have to change my avatar...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaRepub View Post
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    Glad he said that. I hate looking at that face (not SR's--Rove's).

    I agree that if the Republican Party can win, it has to stand for something. Rove has been a tremendous disappointment. I never thought I'd say this, but Rand Paul is starting to sound good. (not his dad). I'm so sick of the RINO's who stand for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintLouieWoman View Post
    Glad he said that. I hate looking at that face (not SR's--Rove's).

    I agree that if the Republican Party can win, it has to stand for something. Rove has been a tremendous disappointment. I never thought I'd say this, but Rand Paul is starting to sound good. (not his dad). I'm so sick of the RINO's who stand for nothing.
    I would like to see something happen with Ben Carson, with a candidate like him we might even get enough votes to overcome the built in illegal voting blocks the Democrats have now.
    I don't know how anybody could dislike the guy, from what I've seen he has every quality needed to make a good leader. I had pretty much given up any hope until I heard Carson speak at the prayer breakfast.
    How is obama working out for you?
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    I wouldnt hop on that bandwagon too energetically yet Rock. We havent a clue about what he thinks about gun control and immigration and a host of other stuff yet. Remember what happened with the Cristy Creme Puff?

    I agree that "something should happen" with Ben Carson. Anyways theres lots o time to... whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janice View Post
    I wouldnt hop on that bandwagon too energetically yet Rock. We havent a clue about what he thinks about gun control and immigration and a host of other stuff yet. Remember what happened with the Cristy Creme Puff?

    I agree that "something should happen" with Ben Carson. Anyways theres lots o time to... whatever.
    I agree with you, he does state all his points through Bible passages. And We really haven't heard enough of is policy beliefs. I like what he said about taxes and health care though.

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