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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
    NJ's pension fund was at least 40billion in debt do to the govt raiding it. I don't blame the congress for passing that law.
    The biggest mistake ever made was when Christine Whitman started raiding the pensions, half of which are employee contributions. She promised to put that money back and since then not one thin dime has been put into the pension fund. Worse yet, when we take a pension loan(we can only borrow up to half of what we already put in, and must pay it back with interest within 5 years), thanks to some Democratic lawmakers, when we repay the pension loan, the interest no longer goes into the pension fund but into the general fund. That said, RINO Christie recently took $260 million more out of the pension fund and gave it to the Revel Casino, a casino/hotel that was doomed from the start(it's been open less than a year). 6 days ago it filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy and that pension money is gone. Like I said, 1/2 is from employee contributions. Now tell me again how it's the employees who are a burden to the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    Yes, they should work for every penny of it in a free and open market rather than in their communist bubble.
    As useless as my union is, I'm inclined to agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    As useless as my union is, I'm inclined to agree.
    I worked in an IBEW shop for several years, they were a thorn in my side, I got in trouble with them on two occasions for having production that was too high, eventually they broke the back of the company and it closed.
    it would be hard to put private industry labor unions out of business but when it comes to public unions even a socialist Like Franklin Roosevelt thought they were a bad idea and shouldn't be allowed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    I worked in an IBEW shop for several years, they were a thorn in my side, I got in trouble with them on two occasions for having production that was too high, eventually they broke the back of the company and it closed.
    it would be hard to put private industry labor unions out of business but when it comes to public unions even a socialist Like Franklin Roosevelt thought they were a bad idea and shouldn't be allowed.
    It's absurdly easy to break a private union; when the company that they're extorting fails, they end up out in the cold, while their competition buys out the physical plant and moves to a right-to-work state. No jobs, no union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    I worked in an IBEW shop for several years, they were a thorn in my side, I got in trouble with them on two occasions for having production that was too high, eventually they broke the back of the company and it closed.
    it would be hard to put private industry labor unions out of business but when it comes to public unions even a socialist Like Franklin Roosevelt thought they were a bad idea and shouldn't be allowed.
    I can see them as an advocate but not for contract negotiations.
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