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  1. #1 Wyoming State Rep. Tells Wyoming Transplant "By All Means Move" 
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    Heard about this on Glenn Beck this morning. A woman who moved from Virginia to Wyoming wrote to all of the state representatives that she didn't like the idea of allowing people with CC permits to carry in schools and is also upset at fracing. This idiot actually had the nerve to say this:

    “I know of other new-to-Wyoming families in similar contemplation. Your choices matter. It would be sad to see an exodus of educated, childrearing age adults from Wyoming as a result of poor lawmaking,” she wrote.[emphasis mine]
    Typical elitist liberals. Well, the Rep, Hans Hunt, a 4th generation Wyoming resident told her to leave. Here is a link to the article: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...y-in-schools/#

    This is what's happening all over the country. These leftists are leaving the places they are from after their ilk turned it into a shithole, moving to places that are predominantly conservative hence low crime, low taxes, nice neighborhoods, better schools, etc. and wanting these places to be run like the shitholes they left. This is what's happening in Texas. Same as illegals coming here and turning a few spots into Mexican shitholes like their country.
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    Love this response:
    ....................It offends me to no end when liberal out-of-staters such as yourself move into Wyoming, trying to get away from where they came from, and then pompously demand that Wyoming conform to their way of thinking. We are, and will continue to be, a state which stands a head above the rest in terms of economic security. Our ability to do that is, in large part, to our “live and let live” mentality when it comes to allowing economic development, and limiting government oversight. So, to conclude, if you’re so worried about what our legislature is working on, then go back home.
    Heh, heh....."Liberal out of staters.....Pompous"..........

    SALOOT!

    But the thing that gets me is that she started writing to all representatives, whether she lived in their district or not. Liberals prove they are control freaks over and over.
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    Glenn Beck is right. 39% of this country define themselves as conservative while something like 21% define themselves as liberal and yet the liberals have the loudest voice and push their liberal values in once conservative areas. It's mindboggling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Glenn Beck is right. 39% of this country define themselves as conservative while something like 21% define themselves as liberal and yet the liberals have the loudest voice and push their liberal values in once conservative areas. It's mindboggling.
    Given that the percentages don't produce the expected results, then the logical thing to do would be to question the terminology. If a person has to be one or the other, than of the 40% unaccounted for, the majority would appear to lean liberal.

    The most likely explantation is what is easily observed just by asking around: most people are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. So what defines these groups on election day would be a variable priority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post

    The most likely explantation is what is easily observed just by asking around: most people are socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
    Do you have an actual study to back this up or did this just fall out of your ass?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    Do you have an actual study to back this up or did this just fall out of your ass?
    Among other things he pulls out of there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    Do you have an actual study to back this up or did this just fall out of your ass?
    Are two elections in which Obama won sufficient to establish that the swing vote went liberal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    Given that the percentages don't produce the expected results, then the logical thing to do would be to question the terminology. If a person has to be one or the other, than of the 40% unaccounted for, the majority would appear to lean liberal.

    The most likely explantation is what is easily observed just by asking around: most people are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. So what defines these groups on election day would be a variable priority.
    Several things swung the vote. Among them are that you can't run against Santa Claus. Most who voted for Obama voted for him because they don't want to lose their gravy train. This is how a man with 8% unemployment, 1 in 6 people on public assistance, national debt at $16 trillion in which Obama added $6 trillion in less than 4 years, among other things. #2, the GOP ran a weak candidate, however, they should have been able to run a shoe and win based on Obama's performance, but Romney, after a strong showing in the 1st debate, completely shit the bed on the other 2 by not playing up Benghazi as well as the state of the economy. #3, a media propaganda machine that is basically the entire MSM aside from Fox News, talk radio and some minor publications. #4, The RNC refusing to run counter ads disputing the DNC's contention that Romney is responsible for a woman getting cancer and how Ryan wants to throw old ladies over cliffs. Hell, the RNC for not having balls period and fighting fire with fire. #5, butthurt Paulbots staying home rather than voting for Romney. I could go on but the point is made but the major reason why Obama got re-elected is the first point on how people voted for free stuff. Nothing of what I stated can be refuted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Several things swung the vote.
    And the swing vote swung liberal. You can't maintain that the liberal won at the percentages you presented unless the swing vote swung liberal.

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    #2, the GOP ran a weak candidate ....
    You call him weak in retrospect. You thought he was going to win and win huge! But the swing vote swung liberal.

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    Most who voted for Obama voted for him because they don't want to lose their gravy train.
    One of the more hypocritical features of the recent election and since was the number of people who get government paychecks, pensions, healthcare, or assistance who were screaming about Obamacare and Socialism.

    You are still trying to convince yourself that the Republican actually won the election, or would have if people were simply as smart as you are. Plenty of people who are smarter than you are made difficult decisions of priorities in the last election. And they voted for Obama, not because Romney was weak, but because of what he said he would do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    , they should have been able to run a shoe and win based on Obama's performance, but Romney, after a strong showing in the 1st debate, completely shit the bed on the other 2 by not playing up Benghazi as well as the state of the economy.
    Maybe that's why the swing vote swung liberal: because they didn't see it as a game. Economies adapt. Anti-social law has a habit of hanging on.


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    .... a media propaganda machine that is basically the entire MSM aside from Fox News, talk radio and some minor publications.
    So you're bitching because we don't have a Fairness Doctrine? And how exactly is it that the ruggedly individualistic high productivity genius with money conservatives which are by your reckoning a majority not met by a fawning media intent on catering to their preferred client base? Does not the free market respond to demographics?


    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Nothing of what I stated can be refuted.
    In 2004 Bush got 62,040,610 votes. Kerry 59,028,444
    In 2008 McCain got 59,948,323 votes. Obama 69,498,516
    In 2012 Romney got 60,931,767 votes. Obama 65,907,213
    In 2000 Bush got 50,456,002 votes. Gore 50,999,897.

    Who are these voters who stayed home? Even if we assume that the difference between Romney and Bush's high were all "conservatives" rather than swing voters, then the most we can move into Romney's total would be 1,108,843 votes leaving him almost 4 million votes shy?

    These voters who stayed home are either imaginary or habitual. If they don't vote conservative it's rather difficult to call them conservative voters.
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