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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterS View Post
    I've never debated liberals...what would be the point? As for a bubble; until this board I had never heard that fundamentals of Political Science and Political Ideologies were somehow a left wing commie plot. You guys are in the bubble and for the life of me I don't see what you have to gain. Why does it matter if Fascism shares traits with Conservatism? That doesn't mean the two equal each other any more than Liberalism equals Communism. They don't and that wasn't my point. But if you are going to sit here and pretend that your ideology has not flaws then the question I am asking is by what means do you have to avoid the pitfalls of your ideology. That is the bubble my friend. I know the pitfalls of my ideology so can avoid them. Can you say the same?
    This country was better off the more conservative it was in both society and govt spending. Is it perfect? no but far better then liberalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
    This country was better off the more conservative it was in both society and govt spending. Is it perfect? no but far better then liberalism.
    Seriously. The only thing that needed to be fixed was segregation in the South and the movement to purge the country of socialists or what the left likes to term as McCarthyism. We all should be treated as equals and the other violates the 1st amendment. It's OK to have a contrary thought process but the way to defeat your enemy is to beat them with facts. The byproduct of that era is what we are living with today. That said, this country was operating in the black before the Great Society experiment and that was with a war going on(Korea). Entitlement spending and not military spending is what has us in this rat hole. Anyone with 2 brain cells could see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Seriously. The only thing that needed to be fixed was segregation in the South and the movement to purge the country of socialists or what the left likes to term as McCarthyism. We all should be treated as equals and the other violates the 1st amendment. It's OK to have a contrary thought process but the way to defeat your enemy is to beat them with facts. The byproduct of that era is what we are living with today. That said, this country was operating in the black before the Great Society experiment and that was with a war going on(Korea). Entitlement spending and not military spending is what has us in this rat hole. Anyone with 2 brain cells could see that.
    Well, that explains why Little Pete doesn't understand what's wrong. The one brain cell he has left is too busy being used to store the talking points from his handlers.
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    Can someone point out where I've said Conservatism was perfect and flawless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by txradioguy View Post
    Can someone point out where I've said Conservatism was perfect and flawless?

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    And yet you still haven't said what the flaws in your ideology are. All you have told me is that what is taught in "liberal" universities is a lie. That doesn't tell me what the flaws are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterS View Post
    And yet you still haven't said what the flaws in your ideology are. All you have told me is that what is taught in "liberal" universities is a lie. That doesn't tell me what the flaws are.
    just accept the fact that liberalism is far worse the conservatism and leave it at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
    just accept the fact that liberalism is far worse the conservatism and leave it at that.
    If you don't know the weaknesses of your own ideology how do you know which is better and which is worse? And a better question is that without knowing the weaknesses of your ideology how do you avoid its pitfalls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
    This country was better off the more conservative it was in both society and govt spending. Is it perfect? no but far better then liberalism.
    When the decadent 20's, the socialist 30's, war torn 40's, the big government high tax 50's, the hippie fest 60's, the women's lib 70's, the big spending 80's, the I never had sex 90's, or perhaps you mean the big spending Bush Jr. era. From the day this country was founded it has been pushed forward by liberalism and the reason for the push was to shed ourselves of our conservative shackles. As for spending the YOY spending under Reagan averaged 6.8%, Bush the Greater 5.4%, Clinton 3.6%, Bush the Lessor 7.7%, and Obama 1.4%. Pretending that things were better doesn't make them better....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterS View Post
    If you don't know the weaknesses of your own ideology how do you know which is better and which is worse? And a better question is that without knowing the weaknesses of your ideology how do you avoid its pitfalls?
    Do you know the weaknesses of your own ideology? Do you know all the lies that come out? Do you know the history of the Democratic Party? Do you know the history of the Republican party? Or do you just watch MSNBC 24/7 and take what they say as gospel?

    Let me give you a hint: If anyone had a real history class instead of some watered down agenda shoving full of lies history class, you wouldn't see one black person as a Democrat. To make the point, Martin Luther King, the God of all black folk, WAS A REPUBLICAN!

    The democrats party was built on racism, it continues to live through racism. Look it up, learn, and stop listening to some liberal professor who only teaches what his agenda is ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterS View Post
    And yet you still haven't said what the flaws in your ideology are.
    The flaws in it come at the very fringe. The Ron Paul types who think the Voting Rights Act of 1964 is unconstitutional...or that whine about the 16th Amendment....the people that want us to go back to a Gold Standard and think that the politicians are illegally funding the military because the standing Army was only supposed to be stood up for two years at a time.

    But that's about it. Conservatism...what in the time of the Founding Fathers was called Liberalism...is what made this country what it is and has allowed it to endure...despite the modern day Socialist Liberals of the Democrat Party are trying to tear down.

    It's why we have been the engine of the world and the place where people come when they want to be free.

    The conservative philosophy and the documents written encasing it in our DNA is not perfect...but it's the best thing going today.


    All you have told me is that what is taught in "liberal" universities is a lie. That doesn't tell me what the flaws are.
    I just did. I don't expect a brainwashed Libtard like you to understand it...but I made it as simple as I could and didn't use too many big words for you.
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