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    Colorado Dem to Rape Survivor: A Gun Wouldn’t Have Helped You Against Rapist Because ‘Statistics Are Not on Your Side’
    Mar. 5, 2013 4:29am Jason Howerton



    Rape survivor Amanda Collins bravely spoke about her horrific attack during a Monday legislative hearing concerning Colorado’s proposed ban on concealed firearms on college campuses. She explained how she wished she would’ve had a firearm to defend herself from her rapist, which could have possibly prevented the attack from occurring.

    After calling her story “unsettling,” Democratic state Sen. Evie Hudak quickly went after Collins, saying “actually, statistics are not on your side, even if you had a gun.”

    “You said that you were a martial arts student, I mean person, experienced in Tae Kwon Do, and yet because this individual was so large, was able to overcome you even with your skills, and chances are that if you had had a gun, then he would have been able to get that from you and possibly use it against you,” she added.
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    A gun wouldn't help but pissing yourself would have. To quote Charlie Brown, "Good grief!"
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    I think, in Sen. Hudak, that we've found the author of the theory of gun control:

    Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
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    I'm not sure if a gun would have helped her or not. It all depends on whether she saw him coming or not. If he saw the gun, he might have decided on a different victim. She's alive today, so she did something right.


    That still doesn't mean the congressman can definitively say that it wouldn't have helped her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    I'm not sure if a gun would have helped her or not. It all depends on whether she saw him coming or not. If he saw the gun, he might have decided on a different victim. She's alive today, so she did something right.


    That still doesn't mean the congressman can definitively say that it wouldn't have helped her.
    And neither can you. What we know is a) she didn't have a gun and b) she was brutally raped.

    I think that the applicable rule is: better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Furthermore, I think that she, and anybody else that wants to, should carry whether it's against the rules or not. The applicable rule for that would be: better to tried by 12 than carried by 6.

    FWIW, I'm sure that all the rapist that have been fatally shot by their would be victims agree wholeheartily with you and the bimbo senator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unreconstructed Reb View Post
    And neither can you. What we know is a) she didn't have a gun and b) she was brutally raped.

    I think that the applicable rule is: better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Furthermore, I think that she, and anybody else that wants to, should carry whether it's against the rules or not. The applicable rule for that would be: better to tried by 12 than carried by 6.

    FWIW, I'm sure that all the rapist that have been fatally shot by their would be victims agree wholeheartily with you and the bimbo senator.


    I didn't make any definitive statement on whether it would have helped her or not. I was just saying that the rep was wrong to be so definitive.

    She wasn't carried out by 6, she survived to testify. Rape is horrible, but rape and murder is worse.
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