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  1. #1 Bill Maher complains about taxes in California 
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    I, for one, was glad to hear him say something. The taxation here is getting insane, and ask Nova how much of it is going to illegals.

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    Bill Maher on California Income Taxes: 'Liberals - You Could Actually Lose Me'

    ...Pointing at Virginia's former Republican Congressman Tom Davis, Maher said, "You know what? Rich people - I'm sure you'd agree with this - actually do pay the freight in this country."

    "I just saw these statistics," he continued, "I mean, something like 70 percent. And here in California, I just want to say liberals - you could actually lose me. It's outrageous what we're paying - over 50 percent. I'm willing to pay my share, but yeah, it's ridiculous."

    So it appears there is a point where Maher's money becomes more important than his politics.

    Consider that in California, millionaires on top of the 39.6 percent they'll pay to the federal government in 2013, there's an additional 14.63 percent that now goes to the state.

    Add in payroll taxes, local taxes, and property taxes, and I've seen estimates that the total tax bite could exceed 60 percent here.

    But the rich aren't paying their "fair share."

    Regardless, it sure was nice to see a liberal - especially one that contributed to Obama's reelection campaign! - complaining about his taxes.
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    Maddow goes on a rant that the rich complain they are taxed too much and then Maher immediately complains that he is taxed too much. LMAO.

    And isn't she sitting in the seat usually reserved for the comedian that is the guest that night. I've only seen clips of the show but they usually have a comedian that doesn't know what the heck they are talking about in that seat. Sounds about right for her, except that she's also not funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    Maddow goes on a rant that the rich complain they are taxed too much and then Maher immediately complains that he is taxed too much. LMAO.
    Well, Maher is particularly angry about California. Prop 30 just raised taxes on anyone making over a million. And if you add that to the special "mental health" tax that millionaires and up make every tax year, you can see why he gets pissed off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    Well, Maher is particularly angry about California. Prop 30 just raised taxes on anyone making over a million. And if you add that to the special "mental health" tax that millionaires and up make every tax year, you can see why he gets pissed off.
    Did anyone point out how much effort he expended on behalf of the Democratic politicians that raised his taxes and are the ones claiming that he doesn't pay his fair share?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Did anyone point out how much effort he expended on behalf of the Democratic politicians that raised his taxes and are the ones claiming that he doesn't pay his fair share?

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    No one said he was logically consistent.
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    These stupid liberals voted for it and wanted it, so they can deal with it. They made the bed, let them lie in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    No one said he was logically consistent.
    Nope, but it would be nice if somebody pointed out that he's getting what he voted for. A few weeks ago, I mentioned on Facebook that a friend of mine and I had tried to shop for ammo at WalMart, and that the shelves were completely bare, and another friend of mine who I'd pretty much stopped interacting with after she became a total Obamaphile commented and complained about the price of ammunition, and how hard it was to get in California. I pointed out to her that this was what she'd voted for, and didn't get a response. Go figure.

    Somebody needs to explain to these idiots that, as Obama keeps saying, elections have consequences, and if you vote for the Progressive ideologue with no clue how the world works, you end up with high taxes, restricted liberties and a collapsing economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Nope, but it would be nice if somebody pointed out that he's getting what he voted for.
    That depends on how he voted in state elections. The taxes he was complaining about were STATE taxes in California. His quote was "California could lose me." He was referring to the newly passed state propositions that raise taxes on "the wealthy" like Prop 30. Technically, Obama doesn't have anything to do with these state props.

    Now you might argue that that's splitting hairs, but, in actuality, Maher could have both supported Obama AND voted against Prop 30 (increases taxes on "the wealthy" and increases sales tax on everyone) and against the state and local spending propositions (like that on high speed rail) as well as the LA proposition increasing the city sales tax. Many Californians vote in just this way.

    In fact, you'd be surprised just how many Californian's vote Democratic for ideological reasons but vote AGAINST state and local propositions that tax, borrow or spend. It may seem like a weird cognitive dissonance to others, but Californians identify strongly with socially liberal policies (gay marriage, abortion, drug legalization). The CA GOP scares the crap out of many Californians because of the anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion stances of the Republican party. Yes, sometimes Republicans get voted to statewide office (like governor) but they are always social liberals (ie, not true conservatives). Often, Californians will vote in a GOP governor to "balance out" a very liberal state legislature that loves to tax and spend. The true Californian is really a social liberal/fiscal conservative combination.

    So depending on how he voted in the state elections, Maher's statement could be seen as having a certain logic to it. He supported Obama (for social/ideological/personal reasons) but does not support the tax increases (by proposition) passed last November. Nor may he support the new Democratic "super majorities" in both the State Assembly and the State Senate which now allow House and Senate Democrats to raise taxes without a single Republican vote. A bit of history: Prop 13 (from the late 1970s) requires a 2/3 majority in both houses to pass new taxes. The Democratic party has been fighting this 2/3 majority requirement ever since, but the requirement has actually worked to keep taxes from skyrocketing too quickly. Now, with two super majorities, there's no check, no roadblock, nothing to stop new taxation except, perhaps Jerry Brown (Ok you know that's a joke. )

    Add to this the fact that the most powerful caucus in the State Assembly is the Hispanic caucus and you can understand why we're all justifiably worried here. The truth of California is that the middle class is actually moving out, many going to Arizona and Texas, despite their socially conservative legislatures. In the end, you can scrape the money together for your own abortion if you can keep more of your own money to begin with. California has actually had a net loss of population in the past decade. The middle class is moving out; the illegal aliens have (temporarily) stopped coming but will return when the economy improves. Now, some high-profile rich folks are making public statements about leaving. It's a bad omen.

    The millionaire class (not the really wealthy in my opinion, especially those in single digits) are beginning to feel the pinch. Folks like Maher are quickly realizing that California, with the highest state tax, with one of the the highest sales taxes in the country (almost 10%), and with lots of new taxes either recently passed or to come, is quickly becoming inhospitable to anyone with even a small level of financial comfort.
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