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  1. #1 Heard on Rush today 
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    Just listening to Rush about the same-sex marriage cases in front of the Supreme Court, esp. Prop 8, from here in California.

    Rush had an excellent caller late in the show who talked about the pressure on his kids from the education system, and how indoctrination about gay marriage in schools often put a wedge between the children and their church. He pointed out that once gay marriage was deemed a "civil right", any church that did not perform gay marriages could be regarded as discriminatory, as bigoted as the Klan.

    The caller then talked about the 1887 Edmunds-Tucker Act as a precedent for what could now occur to churches if gay marriage was deemed a civil right:

    The act:

    Disincorporated the LDS Church and the Perpetual Emigrating Fund Company, with assets to be used for public schools in the Territory.[1]
    Required an anti-polygamy oath for prospective voters, jurors and public officials.
    Annulled territorial laws allowing illegitimate children to inherit.
    Required civil marriage licenses (to aid in the prosecution of polygamy).
    Abrogated the common law spousal privilege for polygamists, thus requiring wives to testify against their husbands.[2]
    Disfranchised women (who had been enfranchised by the Territorial legislature in 1870).
    Replaced local judges (including the previously powerful Probate Court judges) with federally appointed judges.
    Abolished the office of Territorial superintendent of district schools, granting the supreme court of the Territory of Utah the right to appoint a commissioner of schools. Also called for the prohibition of the use of sectarian books and for the collection of statistics of the number of so-called gentiles and Mormons attending and teaching in the schools.[3]

    In 1890 the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the seizure of Church property under the Edmunds–Tucker Act in Late Corporation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints v. United States.

    This act was repealed in 1978.[4][5]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund...0%93Tucker_Act
    I found myself wondering if something along these lines could take place again if gay marriage is, in fact, deemed a civil right. Thoughts?
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    The Left in general wants this country to collapse and if they can use militant queers to that end, they will. Scrap God, toss Him out of the public and their path is made easy.
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    Ya know...Gay Marriage IS a self correcting problem, when you think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaRepub View Post
    Ya know...Gay Marriage IS a self correcting problem, when you think about it.
    Gay butt sex has killed 'way more Americans than civilian-owned assault rifles with high-capacity magazines have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DumbAss Tanker View Post
    Gay butt sex has killed 'way more Americans than civilian-owned assault rifles with high-capacity magazines have.

    Ban Assault Penis'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molon Labe View Post
    Ban Assault Penis'
    It would have to be a full ban, limiting size might be construed as racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apache View Post
    The Left in general wants this country to collapse and if they can use militant queers to that end, they will. Scrap God, toss Him out of the public and their path is made easy.
    The left is a cancer on America and this cancer is killing her. Sadly I'm beggining to think the only way that the left's strangle hold on our country can be broken will be through force of arms. The current crop of Republicans in DC don't have the backbone to do what's neccessary to fight what's been happening and are going along to get along so not to upset anyone.
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    Wife and I were talking about this and the only thing that saves churches here is the 1st Amendment. You can't enforce one group's civil rights by infringing on another group's civil rights. The 1st amendment specifically states that we have the freedom of religion and the "free exercise thereof" meaning that a gay couple can't force in a court of law a church to perform a gay marriage because in most religions, homosexuality goes against the churches tenets. What else is saving the churches is that they do not get any public funding. If they did, they'd be in trouble but since they don't, the state cannot compel them. However, no judge or any other public servant who is authorized to perform marriages(mayors, governors, etc) are going to be allowed to refuse ceremonies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Wife and I were talking about this and the only thing that saves churches here is the 1st Amendment. You can't enforce one group's civil rights by infringing on another group's civil rights. The 1st amendment specifically states that we have the freedom of religion and the "free exercise thereof" meaning that a gay couple can't force in a court of law a church to perform a gay marriage because in most religions, homosexuality goes against the churches tenets. What else is saving the churches is that they do not get any public funding. If they did, they'd be in trouble but since they don't, the state cannot compel them. However, no judge or any other public servant who is authorized to perform marriages(mayors, governors, etc) are going to be allowed to refuse ceremonies.
    The First Amendment is enforced only for perverse methodology only anymore... anything that demeans America, Christianity and moral decency. This is about forcing mentally ill views down our throats. The People have spoken, time and time again, they DON'T WANT gay marriage. The MSM and judiciary will over-turn the will of the People because they can...
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