03-29-2013, 09:21 PM
Welcome to CU lib! Boy they wont even let you wander around for a minute! Fresh meat is rare!
Go start some threads of your own and then fight for your life!
: “Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal.”
” Obummercare, 20 percent of the time it works everytime.
03-30-2013, 07:48 AMIn Memory Of My Friend 1st Sgt. Tim Millsap A Co, 70th Eng. Bn. 3rd Bde 1st AD...K.I.A. 25 April 2005
Liberalism Is The Philosophy Of The Stupid
To Achieve Ordered Liberty You Must Have Moral Order As Well
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.
03-30-2013, 10:06 AM
I hope E. P. Meth hasn't run off, he has quite a stack of questions to answer.
03-30-2013, 10:23 AM
I can see why this issue upsets people, and it would probably be even more upsetting to me if I'd ever met someone who was purposely choosing to work less or not at all due to these programs, while I'm working into the evenings at my firm.
I can totally see where the soda cup ban came from - while there are certainly massive gains we can get by reforming the healthcare system, if Americans simply took better care of their health in general this would save a lot of money as well. But even if this policy wasn't hopelessly poorly implemented, you'll have no trouble convincing me that this crosses the line of gov't interference in our lives.
On the other hand:
The DOMA case at the Supreme Court has recently reminded us just how many rights and benefits are afforded to married couples (something like 1100, I believe). I don't doubt the value of incentivizing marriage and families and support the policy, but what gives the government the right to do this? How different is this really from the soda cup ban?
These are the sorts of questions I ask myself about these kinds of topics in general - am happy to discuss specific issues as well.
The time to pay down the debt is when our economy is rolling. This is why I wish Clinton had cut spending and Bush had not cut taxes. I'm sure I'm stepping on a land mine here, but I wish we had not spent trillions on the two wars in the middle east. Regardless, the position we're in is the position we're in, and I don't think austerity starting today is the correct solution (see Europe).
If the economy begins to recover and I continue to see no efforts to intelligently reform entitlements and health care spending and begin to bring down the deficits, I will be worried. But for now, I don't fear us going the way of post-WW1 Germany, modern Greece, Zimbabwe, etc.
03-30-2013, 11:12 AM
03-30-2013, 12:45 PMBe Not Afraid.
03-30-2013, 04:33 PM
BTW, we had a professor of America Sucks Studies who used to post here under the name Wei Wu Wei. If he's the same one that you're studying under, please give him my regards.
03-30-2013, 05:05 PM
I kinda liked JB's post, myself...it summed up pretty well the mental state, worldview, and knowledge of Conservatism of the typical twenty-something self-styled Liberal.
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