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    Quote Originally Posted by RobJohnson View Post
    I am sure he/she/it qualifies for EBT. I wonder what other details are being left out?

    I wonder how much help he/she/it receives for utilities? Food banks? I'm pretty sure they are taking advantage of every program out there, above and beyond the low income they claim.

    Get rid of the fucking dog. I don't give a shit if they are disabled or not. If they are disabled and can take care of a dog, they can fucking work.
    I understand your frustration with this particular person, but your generalities simply aren't fair. There are people who are disabled and unable to work who are able to care for a dog and for whom a dog is a reason to get up in the morning. There is an old man in my neighborhood who can't walk more than ten feet from his scooter, and he has an old dog who rides in the footwell. I'm not about to tell him that if he can't afford $30 a month to feed the dog and $20 for some painkillers (poor thing has really bad arthritis) that he should just get rid of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    Social security is worked for an paid into, military benefits are worked for and often paid with a life. This is what Obama is cutting, the rest of his welfare/ race redistribution is unfucking touched, that pisses me off.
    One of the big problems with welfare is that it's directed at children. So we reward people for having kids, and we pay benefits to kids that we really can't keep from spilling over to others. But if we cut those benefits, it hits the kids first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    I understand your frustration with this particular person, but your generalities simply aren't fair. There are people who are disabled and unable to work who are able to care for a dog and for whom a dog is a reason to get up in the morning. There is an old man in my neighborhood who can't walk more than ten feet from his scooter, and he has an old dog who rides in the footwell. I'm not about to tell him that if he can't afford $30 a month to feed the dog and $20 for some painkillers (poor thing has really bad arthritis) that he should just get rid of it.
    Did the older man with a dog work all his life? There is a difference. I can see how a dog could make a difference in the older man's life.

    The Dummy complains of high vet bills that are breaking the bank. If you can't afford the vet bills, you should not have pets. What is next? Single payer for pets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    I understand your frustration with this particular person, but your generalities simply aren't fair. There are people who are disabled and unable to work who are able to care for a dog and for whom a dog is a reason to get up in the morning. There is an old man in my neighborhood who can't walk more than ten feet from his scooter, and he has an old dog who rides in the footwell. I'm not about to tell him that if he can't afford $30 a month to feed the dog and $20 for some painkillers (poor thing has really bad arthritis) that he should just get rid of it.
    If he can't move more than ten feet from his chair, then how does he fill it's water dish, or food dish?



    I am sick of seeing the libtards who voted for this socialist President complaining. It is there fault that it is like this. The douchebad just wants the people who work for what they have to pay more out to support his laziness. If any of the libtards had a brain in their heads, they would wake up and see things right. But no, their own selfish interests dictate which way they go. It is all based on greed, and the liberal lazy ass welfare bums are the most greedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeEDay View Post
    If he can't move more than ten feet from his chair, then how does he fill it's water dish, or food dish?
    I don't know. Maybe someone who isn't a total asshole helps him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    I don't know. Maybe someone who isn't a total asshole helps him.
    I guess it is hard to find some one who isn't a total asshole these days. Maybe he has the 400 pound whale down the hall from him do it? After which he has her do other 'things' for him ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    I don't know. Maybe someone who isn't a total asshole helps him.
    This guy spends most of his time playing with Daily Kos. Anyone who wasn't a total @$$hole would avoid him like the plague.

    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    I understand your frustration with this particular person, but your generalities simply aren't fair. There are people who are disabled and unable to work who are able to care for a dog and for whom a dog is a reason to get up in the morning. There is an old man in my neighborhood who can't walk more than ten feet from his scooter, and he has an old dog who rides in the footwell. I'm not about to tell him that if he can't afford $30 a month to feed the dog and $20 for some painkillers (poor thing has really bad arthritis) that he should just get rid of it.
    The guy in your neighborhood isn't writing whiny diatribes on the internet about his finances. He's also worked all of his life, so we can assume that his pension and benefits were earned, rather than simply demanded for having a pulse.

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    One of the big problems with welfare is that it's directed at children. So we reward people for having kids, and we pay benefits to kids that we really can't keep from spilling over to others. But if we cut those benefits, it hits the kids first.
    You're assuming that the kids ever see the benefitst. We had a couple of panhandlers in my neighborhood in Manhattan who were always begging with their kid, who was never in school. The father was a petty drug dealer and both were crackheads. They lived in an SRO and had the full gamut of welfare payments in addition to their panhandling, dealing and assorted other illegal means of acquiring spending money, but their kid never spent a minute inside a classroom (they made more panhandling when she was with them), and she'd ever had a bath or a new set of clothes, you couldn't tell it from looking at her. Welfare kept her parents doped up, but none of it made its way to her. Any able-bodied adult who cannot care for a child and demands welfare is admitting that they cannot provide for the child's needs, and the solution is not throwing money at them, but removing the child from the care of an obviously incompetent adult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Any able-bodied adult who cannot care for a child and demands welfare is admitting that they cannot provide for the child's needs, and the solution is not throwing money at them, but removing the child from the care of an obviously incompetent adult.
    That's a bit general. There are women who work at McDonald's and Walmart who get rent subsidy and food stamps and have a clean kid who goes to school. Some people think that welfare is subsidizing the family and some think it's subsidizing McDonald's and the people who only pay 99˘ for a hamburger.
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    Step 1: Eat the pet and buy a stuffed animal with the money you save the first month.

    Step 2: Learn to play a musical instrument and go out to become 'Local color,' collecting the few odd bucks (Which do add up) every day you go out, since you don't have Jack-all else to do. Added bonus, unlike actually using your interment connection to earn money writing, being a street musician doesn't generate any annoying 1099s that might work their way back to HUD and screw up your housing eligibility.

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    But what exactly am I being wasteful with?
    Phone and internet for starters.

    Ditch the cell phone...cancel the internet (and probably the cable package you got in a combo deal) and sell your computer.
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    The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.
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