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    Jihad Will Not Be Wished Away
    But willful blindness remains the order of the day. By Andrew C. McCarthy
    April 20, 2013 4:00 AM

    We are in a war driven by ideology. “Violent extremism,” which is the label the government and the commentariat prefer to put on our enemies, is not an ideology — it is the brutality that radical ideologies yield. Our enemies’ ideology is Islamic supremacism. To challenge and defeat an ideological movement, you have to understand and confront their vision of the world. Imposing your own assumptions and biases will not do. Islamic supremacists do not see a world of Westphalian nation-states. They do not distinguish between Russia and America the way they distinguish between Muslims and non-Muslims. Their ideology frames matters as Dar al-Islam versus Dar al-Harb: the realm of Islam in a fight to the death against the realm of war — which is everyone and everyplace else.
    The fact that you think this is nuts, or that I’m nuts for saying it out loud, has nothing to do with whether they believe it. They do — and they don’t care, even a little, what you think.
    You do not defeat an ideology by hoping it will change or disappear. You have to challenge it, to make it defend its baleful tenets in the light of day. You cannot protect yourself from its violent outbursts absent understanding its teaching, reluctantly accepting that its teaching will inevitably lead some Muslims to strike out savagely, and committing to a pro-active, intelligence-based counterterrorism strategy — one that scraps political correctness and ferrets out the jihadists before they strike.

    Asked about his “outlook,” Dzhokhar Tsarnaev offered a pregnant response, “Islam,” that raises more questions than it answers. There are all kinds of Islam, including the supremacist kind that is far more widely held than we’re comfortable acknowledging. Until we get beyond that discomfort, until we are prepared to ask, “What Islam?” — and until we are prepared to treat Islamic supremacism as the pariah it should be — Boston’s hellish week will remain our recurring nightmare.

    www.nationalreview.com/article/346145/jihad-will-not-be-wished-away
    — Andrew C. McCarthy is a senior fellow at the National Review Institute and the executive director of the Philadelphia Freedom Center. He is the author, most recently, of Spring Fever: The Illusion of Islamic Democracy.
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    Jihad can't be wished away, but fighting a convential war against it has proved over the past decade or so to have limited effectiveness also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    Jihad can't be wished away, but fighting a convential war against it has proved over the past decade or so to have limited effectiveness also.
    We haven't fought a conventional war against jihad. We've fought local wars against specific agents of the jihad, essentially fighting the symptoms, rather than the disease. The main backers of jihad are the Iranians, the Muslim Brotherhood and the various Salafist (fundamentalist) groups. A true war against jihad would seek regime change in Iran, the neutralization of the Muslim Brotherhood and energy independence for the US (the Salafists include the Saudi Wahhabis, who are funded with oil revenues). Instead, we are pretending that Iran will come to the table if we just provide the right carrots, but no sticks. We permit the Muslim Brotherhood to finance jihad in the US through its subsidiaries, such as Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), Muslim Students Association (MSA), the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) or Fiqh Council of North America. CAIR is the propaganda arm of the Brotherhood, the MSA is the campus organization that shuts down debate about Islam, the ISNA owns most of the leases on mosques and Islamic centers in the US (and enforces rigid Salafist orthodoxy and radicalization in them) and the Fiqh Council acts as the interpreter of Sharia law for Muslims in the US, as well as for the US Government (they are the agency that vets Muslim chaplains for the DOD, guaranteeing that military chaplains will espouse only extremist interpretations of Islam). They are as dangerous to the US as the Bund was during WWII, or the KKK was after the Civil War. We allow Islamic oil producing states to purchase TV networks that promote fake environmentalist dogmas that have the effect of preventing domestic energy exploitation. We are allowing ourselves to be defeated by people who want us dead or converted, and our pinprick responses are attacked as horrors by the shrill hysterics of the antiwar left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    Jihad can't be wished away, but fighting a convential war against it has proved over the past decade or so to have limited effectiveness also.
    That's because of the "progressives" in this country, war can't be fought the way it should. These jihadi's go into populated areas to hide knowing that if we go in and start blasting killing civilians, they know that the American left will brow beat it. IMO, we find a village where they are hiding, we raze the village. Collateral damage be damned. Do they give a rats ass about the civilians they kill? Hell no. Hell, they put a bomb by a little boy. Screw them. Kill 'em all and let God sort them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    If we'd fought WWII this way, today you'd be reading National Socialist Underground in German, and I'd be a bar of soap.
    No, my friend. You would have never been born.
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    It's time to play Cowboys and Muslims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    That's because of the "progressives" in this country, war can't be fought the way it should. These jihadi's go into populated areas to hide knowing that if we go in and start blasting killing civilians, they know that the American left will brow beat it. IMO, we find a village where they are hiding, we raze the village. Collateral damage be damned. Do they give a rats ass about the civilians they kill? Hell no. Hell, they put a bomb by a little boy. Screw them. Kill 'em all and let God sort them out.
    The history of guerilla warfare is full of examples of wars that were lost, not because of the military situation on the ground, but because public opinion turned against them (including the American Revolution, which lost massive support in Britain after Yorktown). The lesson of Vietnam that the left picked up was that they could undermine an American presidency and take power by causing our defeat overseas. This is why they have opposed every war involving a Republican administration and turned into rabid jongoists when a Democrat is in power. The merits of the war are completely irrelevant to them. The war against Sharia is not simply a war that we are fighting in Afghan villages and Iraqi cities, but is also being fought in here. Our universities and media undermine our ability to expose the intent of the Muslim Brotherhood and their front groups, and major institutions are complicit in this. One of the reasons that the media was desperate for a white male bomber in Boston was that they don't want the ideas of jihadists exposed to scrutiny by the public.

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    Yes, but that lacks a certain poetry. The bar of soap comment is much more visceral.
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    Here's the thing: we go to war with Iran, we go to war with Russia. We mess with Pakistan too much, and our allies in India get pissed off. We invade Egypt and we bring on WWIII. We can't fight military battles in every place in the world in which radical Islam is running the show, we can't even completely root it out at home because of our own Constitution and protection of free speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    Jihad can't be wished away, but fighting a convential war against it has proved over the past decade or so to have limited effectiveness also.
    It hasn't been effective because the government had been refusing to drop bombs in the middle of Baghdad and Pakistan, other-words turning them into parking lots.

    You want it to be effective? Blow the scum up. Knock Iraq, Iran, and Pakistan off the map. That will make the Jihadis drop their arms right away. You have to play with these uneducated inbreeds on their level. if blowing things up is all they know, then we proceed to do such.

    And we could take Iran, Iraq, and Pakistan out of commission, but like I said we won't. I think we all know why, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeEDay View Post
    It hasn't been effective because the government had been refusing to drop bombs in the middle of Baghdad and Pakistan, other-words turning them into parking lots.

    You want it to be effective? Blow the scum up. Knock Iraq, Iran, and Pakistan off the map. That will make the Jihadis drop their arms right away. You have to play with these uneducated inbreeds on their level. if blowing things up is all they know, then we proceed to do such.

    And we could take Iran, Iraq, and Pakistan out of commission, but like I said we won't. I think we all know why, though.

    If we did that, the entire world except Israel and maybe Britain would stand against us.

    The Jihadis want us to do stuff like that, because then we actually will commit the atrocities that they are always accusing us of committing.
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