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04-28-2013, 06:14 PM
All of the good things that unions stood for and did has been co-opted by the federal govt.
Used to be that you didn't have a safe workplace without a union, but now you have OSHA.
Used to be that your employer could abuse your hours and wages without a union, but now you have FLSA.
What the unions used to do for the workers, the fed does in their place, and the unions are left only with the corruption, graft, and obstructionism that benefits only the union, not the workers.We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other.In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress.
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04-28-2013, 07:26 PM
Mine was Ding-dongs. I'm old enough to remember when they were foil wrapped, not plastic.
Little Debbie does a decent copy of them. They may not fill them like Hostes did, sandwiching the filling between the cakes where Hostess injected it into a pocket. But taste wise, I can't really tell a difference. Plus a box is about $3. Half the price Hostess was.
Doesn't mean I wouldn't buy a box now and then for a treat to remember the good old days growing up, but price wise, I'll go cheaper.
I hope they are more competitive on the return. I would love to see them make it. Place I work at, our company use to have Hostess make our in-store brand breads. It was a quarter the price we offered, and their same quality. Maybe they will switch back. But I doubt it considering where they are reopening the plants. Too far for regular daily deliveries.Klaatu barada nikto
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04-28-2013, 07:56 PM
Well, if you think about it. The poor aren't the only ones who do buy junk food. But, they are the ones who buy the most of it. All you have to do is go to the grocery store at the beginning of each month and look at what the welfare bums are buying. It isn't hard to place them; they are the ones with two shopping carts full of chips, soda, and tasty kids; while their scruffy kids are screaming and running up and down the isles.
This is why I say that the government should limit what you can buy with food stamps - And all junk food should be cut off. It should be 'REAL' food items. ...
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04-29-2013, 12:03 AM
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04-29-2013, 12:10 AM
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04-29-2013, 12:34 AM
I agree. I've seen that get so badly abused in the past. When I worked at a convenience store, I once saw a family come in and buy up to eight or nine dollars worth of Bon Appetite snack cakes on food stamps. What I was thinking was that they could go up to Wal-Mart up the street and buy a couple of boxes of snack cakes for less money than what they spent on those individual ones. I do think junk food should be cut off, but I just wanted to demonstrate how badly food stamps have been abused here.
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04-29-2013, 10:09 AM
I haven't seen any Dolly Madison products since Hostess went out of business. I thought that Hostess had bought the label at some point in the past. I liked the vanilla Zingers better than Twinkies, but my favorite of that kind of stuff is Ding Dongs. I've missed them, not that I bought them all that often.
Little Debbie makes the best peanut-butter wafer bars, though.
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04-29-2013, 01:05 PM
More like $2 for a box. A 50˘ difference in a single serving, when Little Debbie's products go for 25˘, is enough to crush you in a market. However, the retail price is only part of the equation. If the union contracts were bankrupting the company, then the extra revenues from the higher prices were not going to do much to keep their heads above water.
Who in their right mind would join a union that had already destroyed the company once? I'd rather have a job than a membership card in the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers & Grain Millers International Union (which, BTW, also represents the workers at the nuclear power plant on The Simpsons), especially if the membership card means permanent closure of the plant and unemployment.
The government already limits what you can buy with food stamps, but many supermarkets don't enforce the limits, while the government rarely does the necessary oversight. But that isn't the worst of it. When the NY Post did their series on food stamp fraud back in the 90s, they uncovered all manner of scams, including stores that stocked no food, but bought food stamps for 50˘ on the dollar. When they switched to debit cards, the scams changed, but the basics remained the same, with stores ringing up fake transactions and giving the customers a kickback in cash. Basically, the store is an ATM, charging about 30% of the total as a "fee" and the taxpayer is the bank. And, when a store is busted for this practice, they can change their name and get back on the authorized list within days.--Odysseus
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