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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeEDay View Post
    Obama called him today.
    Mrs O also made a point to call him separately and congratulate him. This is truly bizarre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintLouieWoman View Post
    Mrs O also made a point to call him separately and congratulate him. This is truly bizarre.
    ....then to prove that she can relate, she showed him her dick.
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    What pisses me off about this whole thing is how Jason Collins is being called a hero and courageous for coming out of the closet. I'm sorry but using those terms to describe what Jason Collins did denigrates the meaning of the words hero and courage. A hero is someone who rushes into a burning building to rescue people. A hero is someone who puts their life on the line to protect others. Courage is going into a house in Fallujia Iraq to clear it of insurgents to rescue a buddy who is down. Announcing that you're a gay NBA player at the end of your career is neither heroic or courageous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molon Labe View Post
    When a NFL WR comes out, He may possess exeptional skill at going deep and long for the big score.
    The first NFL player to come out will be a Tight End.

    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    Okay, so three responses - one who said he would still support a sports hero even if he didn't approve of his private life, one who said he would not, and one who referenced my question but did not answer it.
    I'm not a huge sports fan, so I'll use a different analogy. JC Leyendecker was one of my favorite illustrators before I found out that he was gay, and he will remain one of my favorites until somebody can show me the difference between a gay brush stroke and a straight one. The work speaks for itself. If Collins were a great player before coming out, he'd still be a great player afterwards, but since he's apparently not, I'm not going to take an interest in him either way.

    On edit: A columnist at American Thinker had this to say, and it's apropos:

    I asked (via email) former NFL player Ken Hutcherson, currently senior pastor of Antioch Bible Church in Kirkland, Wash., the following questions pertaining to the Collins matter:


    "What are your thoughts about a professional athlete like Jason Collins announcing that he's gay? Do you think it's appropriate for someone to announce that he or she is living the homosexual lifestyle? How should committed Christians respond to such an announcement?"


    Pastor Hutcherson's response to me is as follows (slightly edited):


    Well, most guys may not like it, but they've been scared to say anything about it. Who cares that he's gay, except to those who have an agenda to push and who use anyone who will join. Jason is being used, and he will have a price to pay. Many guys, knowing [that he's gay], will have some thoughts about being in the shower when he's there. I would not like having a guy who likes other guys standing and looking at all the naked guys, so I think the players can act as accepting as they please, but there will be some who will not be comfortable with it.

    I think anyone should have the right to come out of the closet and announce it all they want. The problem is trying to make a statement so I have to accept it. It is now the truth that if anyone speaks against [the homosexual lifestyle and agenda], they will be the one disciplined or kicked off the team for being intolerant. Who are the intolerant ones when someone is discriminated against for their opinion or religious beliefs? They're opening a can of worms that will backfire on the professional sports world.

    What should Christians do about this? They're going to do as they have done for years. Professional sports have always had guys who live very strong secular lives that are not pleasing to the Lord. You let them know and show them the examples of a Godly life and take advantage of sharing the love and forgiveness of Christ. If Christians can't deal with sin in professional sports, there would be no Christians at all in sports.
    Well said, Pastor Hutcherson!

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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    Okay, so three responses - one who said he would still support a sports hero even if he didn't approve of his private life, one who said he would not, and one who referenced my question but did not answer it.
    Let me put it this way. I was an Elton John fan before he came out and I'm still an Elton John fan today. The way I stop being a fan is when people use something like this for political gain or it changes them. Case in point, Rosie O'Donnell. I used to like her and used to think she was funny and followed her when she was a young up and coming comedian. Hell, her line in Exit to Eden is still one of my favorite movie lines of all time. However, once she came out and turned into a bitter mindless blithering moonbat, she lost me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    Okay, so three responses - one who said he would still support a sports hero even if he didn't approve of his private life, one who said he would not, and one who referenced my question but did not answer it.

    I don't look at a persons personal views or beliefs with anything that has do with 'Entertainment', as if that was the case, I wouldn't be listening to any music, watching any movie, or watching any sports team.

    Example:

    1) I am a huge Elton John fan, and he is a gay flaming liberal. But he makes great music. He also supports things I don't, like gay couples adopting children. But like I said, he makes great music.

    2) I grew up listening to Pink Floyd. David Gilmour was the reason I picked a guitar up, and I think Roger Waters is one of the greatest lyricists in rock history, even though Roger Waters is an antisemitic Jew hating communist.

    3) Paul McCartney. One of my heroes. I loved him better with Wings than the Beatles but that is a different story. He is a huge liberal and loves obama.

    4) Bono. I Love U2. Bono is a liberal, remember how he would always call Bush Sr. during concerts back in the late 80's early 90's? Bono is also a devout catholic, and a good christian man. Recently him and Bush Jr. got together to form a charity fund for Africa.

    I could name more, but I won't. Case in point is that you can't let politics or personal beliefs get in the way of what you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Let me put it this way. I was an Elton John fan before he came out and I'm still an Elton John fan today. The way I stop being a fan is when people use something like this for political gain or it changes them. Case in point, Rosie O'Donnell. I used to like her and used to think she was funny and followed her when she was a young up and coming comedian. Hell, her line in Exit to Eden is still one of my favorite movie lines of all time. However, once she came out and turned into a bitter mindless blithering moonbat, she lost me.
    OK, thanks for the response. I agree about Rosie - her early standup is pretty funny (I don't remember the Exit to Eden line).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeEDay View Post
    Case in point is that you can't let politics or personal beliefs get in the way of what you like.
    I don't either; some do. Sometimes my husband and I will watch a movie and agree that while we like a particular actor's acting job, we wouldn't want to KNOW him (as in, have him over for dinner). And that's fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    OK, thanks for the response. I agree about Rosie - her early standup is pretty funny (I don't remember the Exit to Eden line).

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    Quote Originally Posted by txradioguy View Post

    You're acting like the first 5-8 minutes of the show didn't happen.
    All I heard him go on about was how unimportant the guy is. After about the tenth refrain and the caller I probably switched over to Hugh Hewitt.
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