Really dumb gay activists

[Novaheart]

The reason to get married is to provide a stable, permanent environment for raising children. If you value anything above the welfare of your children, then you aren't ready for marriage.

If the purpose of getting married is to provide a stable permanent environment for raising kids then it is a failure about half of the time. That is unless you consider divorce and custody a form of stability and permanence.

[dixierat]

If the purpose of getting married is to provide a stable permanent environment for raising kids then it is a failure about half of the time. That is unless you consider divorce and custody a form of stability and permanence.

True, Nova, but there is no evidence that gays will provide a greater degree of stability that I am aware of. If a gay couple has adopted a child and then splits, who gets the child? Who pays to support the child?

The better question from this conservatives point of view is why is the government involved with marriage at all? Is not marriage a religious institution?

[Odysseus]

If the purpose of getting married is to provide a stable permanent environment for raising kids then it is a failure about half of the time. That is unless you consider divorce and custody a form of stability and permanence.

So, your argument is that because not all marriages succeed (thanks to previous "reforms")), we should expand the definition to include even more fundamentally unstable relationships, thus guaranteeing a greater rate of failure? Not sure that I find your logic compelling, although it is consistent with your hostility to societal norms that don't advance your agenda.

Sic hacer pace, para bellum.
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[Elspeth]

If the purpose of getting married is to provide a stable permanent environment for raising kids then it is a failure about half of the time. That is unless you consider divorce and custody a form of stability and permanence.

Not all marriages are equally unstable. Practicing Christians have lower rates of divorce than the society in general:

US Divorce Rates for Various Faiths

Denomination (in order of decreasing divorce rate)

% who have been divorced

Non-denominational ** 34%
Baptists 29%
Mainline Protestants 25%
Mormons 24%
Catholics 21%
Lutherans 21%

The low rates among Catholics may have something to do with pre-marital counseling, which the Church requires before any marriage in a Catholic church:

Premarital counseling reduces divorce risk

USA Today: Premarital Education could cut divorce rate, survey finds

Why Premarital Counseling Matters

[Hawkgirl]

The law of unintended consequence rears it's ugly head....

[RobJohnson]

The reason to get married is to provide a stable, permanent environment for raising children. If you value anything above the welfare of your children, then you aren't ready for marriage.

Now that is just crazy talk.