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  1. #1 Any body here know the facts behind this? 
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    I'll tell you about the flyover at A&M some day....

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    Air Force Academy Commencement 2013

    You see 2013 is the first Air Force graduation on record that has occurred under a Sequester created by a non functioning Congress and an unyielding Obama Administration.

    Due to operating under this Sequester the ceremonies proceeded as follows:
    President Obama regretfully declined the kind invitation of the Commandant of the Air Force Academy to be speak to the graduates and their families on the occasion of their graduation saying he was committed to addressing the graduates at West Point. Instead it was established that Vice President Biden was free and he would come to Colorado Springs.
    And, as to the request for the usual fly-over by the US Air Force Thunderbirds that was declined again due to the Sequester.

    After consultation with his chain of command the Commandant of the Air Force Academy notified the White House that due to the Sequester cancelling the traditional fly-over of the Thunderbirds that he was confident that the nation didn't need the added $1 million + expense to fly Air Force 2, of any configuration or model, and the added expense of the Secret Service and their entourage required when the Vice President traveled.

    So just cancel the initial request for a speaker from the White House for the commencement.

    So the commencement went off as planned sans representation from the Obama Administration.
    It looked like this:
    The featured speaker was an Under Secretary of the Air Force, who is a decorated Viet Nam veteran. The Secretary flew back and forth from Andrews AFB to Peterson AFB In Colorado Springs on routine training flight conducted by the Air Force thus costing the American tax payers nothing additional.

    There were nearly as many Air Force General Officers in attendance as there were family members. A dozen or more 4 Star General, three or four times as many 2 and 3 Stars an untold number of 1 Star Generals. And, of course countless Colonels and below.

    Most of these officers were themselves alumni of the Air Force Academy and wanted nothing less than to present a perfect program for the graduating class.

    Since the Congress and the Obama Administration could not see fit to allow for a fly-over by the Thunderbirds, a number of the senior generals took matters into their own hands.
    And so, when the speeches, the hats were all thrown into the air, and all the family hugs were all made and it became time for the fly-over a roar of engines was detected from the West of the air strip and parade grounds there at the facility and everyone was treated to a fly-over by the Confederate Air Force.
    Looking up they saw all kinds of vintage aircraft from B-17s B-24s, B-25s, P-38s, P-51s and others all represented by manufactures such Corsair, Grumman, Lockheed, and Boeing who still provide parts availability for these aircraft, and flown by our hero's from prior conflicts that still see fit to stay active for services such as this. It was a wonderful experience for all who were there.

    I am sure you will join me in offering a salute to these serving officers who saw fit not to rob the 2013 graduating class of their day of celebration, and to our hero's who flew the planes for this worthy occasion and oh yes to the many private donors who pitched in and covered the expenses involved in bringing these aircraft in to Colorado Springs from various locations across the country.
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    I got that email from friend in Texas. Funny how the MSM doesn't pick up on any of this.
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    Not sure where they came up with the "Confederate Air Force" bit, though I have a guess. There was a flyover of several WWII-vintage aircraft, an effort put together by private donations, but this was organized by a museum in Houston, not some "Confederate Air Force." I suspect that this was some misunderstanding of the name of one of the private entities who own the B-24 Liberator used in the flyover, the Commemorative Air Force.

    Much of the rest of the e-mail is probably BS. In keeping with tradition, Obama addressed one of the service academies this year, each year a different one; this year it was Annapolis' turn, not West Point. Chuck Hagel gave the West Point commencement address this year. And, it wasn't an undersecretary who delivered the commencement address in Colorado; it was outgoing Secretary of the Air Force Michael Donley, who was never in Vietnam, though he was in the XVIIIth Airborne at the tail end of Vietnam. Whether it's the White House who makes the offer to Pentagon officials to speak at service academy graduations or whether that flows up to the Pentagon through chain of command, I'm not sure, but we have no evidence to substantiate the claim that there was this invitation extended to send Biden and it was refused. That part doesn't really pass the smell test, though: if any of the service academies gets an offer for the VP to come address them, I can scarcely imagine that they would turn their nose up at it, particularly not out of some sense of political spite. I watched my buddy graduate from Annapolis and Gore, as VP, gave the commencement address; even though there was open hostility between the White House and the military at the time, Annapolis readily accepted an offer for the VP to address the graduating class, and the midshipmen were happy for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Wood View Post
    Not sure where they came up with the "Confederate Air Force" bit, though I have a guess. There was a flyover of several WWII-vintage aircraft, an effort put together by private donations, but this was organized by a museum in Houston, not some "Confederate Air Force." I suspect that this was some misunderstanding of the name of one of the private entities who own the B-24 Liberator used in the flyover, the Commemorative Air Force.
    The Commemorative Air Force used to be known as the Confederate Air Force until January 1, 2002 when the membership voted to change the name in 2001.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zathras View Post
    The Commemorative Air Force used to be known as the Confederate Air Force until January 1, 2002 when the membership voted to change the name in 2001.

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    And "Commemorative" was chosen so they could still be the 'CAF'



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    The Aggie Bonfire Tragedy tells the tale better than I can but here is the rest of the story.

    The game took place 11/26/1999 and the University requested a missing-man flyover in honor of the 12 who died in the collapse. The request was denied.

    There happened to be a group of Ag grads who were currently flying SPADS as a part of their occupation and they all needed some air time to keep their hours up.

    Pilots from Air Force Reserve Commandís 301st FW in Fort Worth flew a missing-man formation over Kyle Field in College Station, Texas, before the start of the Texas A&M vs. University of Texas football game. The flyover followed an invocation and a period of silence to honor the eleven students and one A&M graduate killed during the construction of the annual Texas A&M bonfire. Four A&M graduates flew the mission in F-16s from the wingís 457th FS.


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