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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    The biggest beef with Islam is that it is a totalitarian project. Islam forces humanity back into the tents and caves by creating a structure in which trust is impossible. Its maltreatment of women is part and parcel of an ideology that seeks to control every vestige of life within its domain. It's a culture of predation, in which the strongest thug rules. Men have the illusion of liberty under Islam, but the dynamics of the culture create and perpetuate schisms along tribal and clan lines that destroy the capacity to form associations beyond them.
    Aayan Hirsi Ali's book Infidel does a really good job showing the connections between extremist Islam and family/clan affililation in Somalia and East Africa. But her critiques of Islam are basically from a feminist prospective, as a woman who suffered a great deal before leaving Africa for the Netherlands, and eventually, the US, where she is now (the Dutch, except for Gert Wilders, sold her down the river of political correctness).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    No, that's only part of the answer. It's a totalitarian political ideology with religious trappings. Think Communism or Nazism with a pulpit.
    Spot on, Ody.
    "Our president delivered his State of the Union message to Congress. That is one of the things his contract calls for -- to tell congress the condition of the country. This message, as I say, is to Congress. The rest of the people know the condition of the country, for they live in it, but Congress has no idea what is going on in America, so the president has to tell 'em." ~ Will Rogers
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