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    Quote Originally Posted by Generation Why? View Post
    I woul say no we shouldn't participate in cannibalism. And I am in total agreement with that last sentence. Just because a different species does it doesn't mean it's ok for humans. We are a higher order. Which is why we aren't cannibals and we don't kill our kids or someone else's kids for sex. Homosexuality isn't violent, whereas your examples are. Humans are more than capable of war, we've been in a perpetual state of war for far too long. Some good, some wrong but war nonetheless. To imply that because other species also partake in these actions that humans don't doesn't negate the fact that homosexuality is, at the end of the day, not a big problem to the human race. We are still reproducing. As I type this there are millions of teenage boys running around their towns trying to get some summer action from the ladies. As a species, I think we will be just fine. Even with the homosexuals.
    I'm relieved that you don't think we should participate in cannibalism.

    However, the original argument stands: just because any species of animal does a particular act does not mean that humans ought to feel compelled or invited to follow along. Your dog licks his own balls, humps furniture, sniffs at shit on the sidewalk, and pees on fire hydrants. None of these behaviors is violent, but humans do not need to follow suit simply because another species does so.
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    On what grounds can you reject the findings other than you disagree with them? Do you work in the science community?
    I reject them because I disagree with them. It's a personal decision, I'm not forcing it on you so why do you object? No, I'm not in the science community. I'm an engineer.

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    Still not a progressive. I thought my stance on Obamacare helped explain that a little. Unless you think I am the only progressive in the country who disagrees with socialist healthcare...
    I guess that's possible.

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    I didn't play the race card, seeing as race has nothing to do with sexuality. I used a similar example of minorities being treated differently. They happened to be black. That's the sample I had so it's the one I used. You are the one complaining about race.
    Wrong. You tried to play the race card with smarmy 1950's Dixie comment about replacing 'shiteater' with 'black'. It was lame as hell and definitely a libtard ploy.

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    Happens every once in a while. I'm sure we agree on more things than we disagree.
    I wouldn't be too sure about that.


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    We can replace hate with tolerance/intolerance. But to say that people are born intolerant of others is a new concept to me. The Greeks aren't born intolerant of the Turks and vice-versa. They're taught to not tolerate one another. No one is born intolerant of homosexuality. It is taught. Hell I'm not even asking you to tolerate homosexuality. I'm just saying it's their business what they do in their bedroom, just like what you do is your business, not mine. So why should we care one way or another. In regards to this situation, she signed a contract. She broke a contract. There is a penalty to pay.
    No, we won't replace 'hate' with 'tolerance/intolerance'. I specifically used the word 'disgust' and you will not spin the debate to fit your agenda.

    Also, you're right, it's my business what I do in my bedroom, however, when I begin a nation wide public campaign to force others into accepting my bedroom antics then it becomes everybody's buisness by default.

    Furthermore, precisely because I find certain activities quite disgusting, I refuse to tolerate those activities in my life. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unreconstructed Reb View Post
    A) The elderly have accomplished their biological duty to reproduce in the prime of life. Are you ignorant of biological cycles? Born, mature, reproduce, get old, die. The time line and the length of time for each phase is irrelevant.
    How remarkably dim and inaccurate.

    By your understanding, a person might as well die when his/her children have reached age 12. There is much more to human existence than reproduction and the value of an individual is not limited to his own offspring. In most primates there are adults who do not reproduce who nonetheless have value to the tribe. They hunt, protect, and do child care. They teach. In humans they build and create. They collect material and knowledge and pass it on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    How remarkably dim and inaccurate.

    By your understanding, a person might as well die when his/her children have reached age 12. There is much more to human existence than reproduction and the value of an individual is not limited to his own offspring. In most primates there are adults who do not reproduce who nonetheless have value to the tribe. They hunt, protect, and do child care. They teach. In humans they build and create. They collect material and knowledge and pass it on.
    Are you following the thread? If so, then you know that my response was to Lanie questioning why one would live past reproductive age if the premise that we are designed to reproduce is true.

    Yes I know that there is much more to life than reproduction but this discussion isn't centered around your weekly fag meetings. I'm talking about the basic functions of living creatures which are survival which includes passing on your genes. Everything else is merely by products of that basic function.

    Also, part of my response was that the time line and length of time for each phase of life is irrevelant, that is, males, particularly, can continue to father children well into old age.

    BTW, why do care about this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unreconstructed Reb View Post
    I reject them because I disagree with them. It's a personal decision, I'm not forcing it on you so why do you object? No, I'm not in the science community. I'm an engineer.
    Facts are facts whether or not you choose to believe them.


    Wrong. You tried to play the race card with smarmy 1950's Dixie comment about replacing 'shiteater' with 'black'. It was lame as hell and definitely a libtard ploy.
    Did I say you were racist for being disguested by gay people?


    No, we won't replace 'hate' with 'tolerance/intolerance'. I specifically used the word 'disgust' and you will not spin the debate to fit your agenda.

    Also, you're right, it's my business what I do in my bedroom, however, when I begin a nation wide public campaign to force others into accepting my bedroom antics then it becomes everybody's buisness by default.

    Furthermore, precisely because I find certain activities quite disgusting, I refuse to tolerate those activities in my life. Period.
    They're not asking for acceptance. They are asking for the same legal rights we as heterosexuals have. They have a nation wide campaign because the majority is trying to supress their rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unreconstructed Reb View Post
    A) The elderly have accomplished their biological duty to reproduce in the prime of life. Are you ignorant of biological cycles? Born, mature, reproduce, get old, die. The time line and the length of time for each phase is irrelevant.

    B) I agree. Those of us that adhere to traditional values are in decline. The left, which includes most of the media, seem to be salivating for a complete and total meltdown of morality. People like me have become the whipping dogs because we will not compomise our convictions when in fact we are the last threads of what is holding our societal fabric together. Just a few more years of spiralling morality, apathy and economy coupled with exponentially increasing government control and the left wings communist utopia will be a stark reality. I'm sure that you and your comrades will be dancing jigs in the streets while your new communist masters issue the orders for the extermination of 'undesirables'.
    What about heterosexuals who are not physically capable of having children? Can they marry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Generation Why? View Post
    Facts are facts whether or not you choose to believe them.




    Did I say you were racist for being disguested by gay people?




    They're not asking for acceptance. They are asking for the same legal rights we as heterosexuals have. They have a nation wide campaign because the majority is trying to supress their rights.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Generation Why? View Post

    They're not asking for acceptance. They are asking for the same legal rights we as heterosexuals have. They have a nation wide campaign because the majority is trying to supress their rights.
    What Constitutional rights are gays not being granted? Please show me where any of their Constitutional rights are being denied.

    As you said "facts are facts" and the fact of the matter is that gays DO have the same rights you and I do and nothing guaranteed by the Constitution is being denied.

    And you're correct that gays aren't asking for acceptance...they are DEMANDING It whether we like it or not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by txradioguy View Post
    What Constitutional rights are gays not being granted? Please show me where any of their Constitutional rights are being denied.

    As you said "facts are facts" and the fact of the matter is that gays DO have the same rights you and I do and nothing guaranteed by the Constitution is being denied.

    And you're correct that gays aren't asking for acceptance...they are DEMANDING It whether we like it or not.


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    I didn't say Constitutional rights, I said legal rights. They're not demanding you accept it either. Ayn Rand is a great example of someone opposed to homosexuality. She, an atheist, abhorred homosexuals. Yet at the same time she agreed that they should not be treated any different. You don't have to like them, accept them, tolerate them, or talk to them. Just let them live. If you weren't so adamant in denying them these basic liberties that you and I have this wouldn't be a problem in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Generation Why? View Post
    Facts are facts whether or not you choose to believe them.
    What facts are you talking about specifically?
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