Here's the latest liberal "facts" (actually speculation, "I want to believe it", racism, and outright hatred).
TorchTheWitch (7,598 posts)
9. probably, but I don't think it matters
The guy lived there for 3 years, there are only 3 streets, and he likes to spend his time cruising around the complex calling the police about open garage doors, kids playing and potholes... ya know, important stuff like that. That by itself defies belief that he wouldn't know the street names nor be able to tell the police how to get to where he was. I've lived in far more complicated arranged complexes like that with no street names at all and after a few days of living there could have easily explained where I was and how to find me.
The 911 call he made makes it clear as day that he bugged out when Martin started running and leaped out of the car to run after him, lost him and intended to keep searching for him when he changed his mind about having the police meet him at his car and to call him to tell them where he was. Well, if he could tell them where he was and how to find him later when they called him he certainly could have just done it then if he intended to stay at his car. I think even the most biased person on earth would have to concede to this. It's THAT absurd.Star Member Lugnut (8,799 posts)
49. If there was blood on his face here's my theory.
The gun kicked when he fired it and hit him in the snoot. I don't know anything about guns but I have fired a .357 pistol. That thing set me back on my heels. If Z's gun was anything comparable it had a mean kick.One thing about liberals is that many of them only care about their agenda and if there is proof that something that they want to be true isn't or vice versa all they need is one liberal liar to tell them what they want to hear and they consider it "Proof" that they are right and others are wrong. (ie. The IRS scrutinized liberal groups, not just conservative. The truth is that conservative groups were not approved for 2 years and needed to be sent on to Washington, liberal groups did not have to be sent to Washington and were approved, yet because the IRS in covering their butt said that they scrutinized liberal groups they'll shout it to the mountaintops that it's "not a scandal", "nothing to it" And they'll claim that no conservative groups were denied and 2 liberal groups were.....but they won't acknowledge that the conservative groups were not approved either.....but the liberal ones were.) Same here.brush (1,192 posts)
55. Believe me
zimmy was caught in several lies today. The medical examiner and the lead detective both said his injuries were very minor and inconsistent with having his "head bashed repeatedly against concrete."
zimmy also said TM covered his nose and mouth in an attempt to smother him, yet he was still able to do all the continued wailing that was heard on the audio tapes.
C'mom, all cock and bull stories that are beginning to unravel. He's a lying sack of you know what who made up a story to cover his ass after killing an unarmed, innocent teen who had every right to defend himself from an armed wannabe cop out to stop him from being another of the 'fucking assholes" who always get away.
Star Member Tx4obama (30,454 posts)
1. And there are NO bushes. And there are address numbers by the doors...
... back there in the sidewalk area.Star Member WillyT (46,773 posts)
Anybody Else Amazed At the Amount Of Support For Zimmerman And Stand Your Ground ???
It be blowing my mind.
I guess racism and gun-lovin crosses party lines.They never say that if Martin had simply gone home he would be alive today. But it's just as true as the comment about Zimmerman.Star Member JDPriestly (38,743 posts)
41. Unfortunately, it isn't a matter of what he deserves, it is a matter of what the jury
is willing to give him.
Murder 2 is a tough charge to win. The prosecutor said he charged Zimmerman because of discrepancies in Zimmerman's statements about the incident.
There is a post here with a video that points out some of them.
It might reassure to watch it.
But, remember, the defendant gets the benefit of the doubt. The standard of proving beyond reasonable doubt is very high.
Zimmerman's story is difficult to believe. I cannot believe that Zimmerman reasonably felt a fear of death or severe bodily harm while carrying a gun, and if he did it was only because he is an extremely fearful, dangerously paranoid guy.
As a grandmother, I would like to see Zimmerman off the street for a long time.
He put himself into the situation he was in. He did not have to be there. And had Zimmerman stayed in the truck, Trayvon Martin would be alive today.
But don't count on the jury agreeing with me. Zimmerman is the only person involved in the events whose story will be head.
DearAbby (12,216 posts)
15. What gets me is they dont believe Martin had this same right.
You have a guy following you in his car...you "circle" the car to give the guy notice "Hey I see you watching me" ..Zimmerman could have rolled down his window to say "I am with the neighborhood watch, I am not familiar with you in the area" Instead Martin continues his walk towards home. Telling Jeantal about the creepy cracker. Martin turns the corner at the "T" heading for his Father's house.
When Zimmerman parks his truck, the headlights shone down the path, he would take. In pitch darkness Martin is going to see the lights from the vehicle light up the immediate area behind him..the point where he says "Oh Shit" he steps off the walkway onto the grass. Zimmerman walks by to get the address from the other side, approaches the "T" Looks down and does not see Martin...Martin watches him walk by. Over the phone to Jeantal, they discuss plans of escape. Should Martin Run, and so on.
On his way back to the vehicle Zimmerman is confronted with a very frightened Martin. "Hey man, do you have a problem with me?" Again Zimmerman could have answered, "I am with the neighborhood watch, I am not familiar with you in the area" instead he said "no Problem" Which is a bold face lie. Of course Zimmerman has a problem, he was actively following Martin...At this moment Zimmerman became a threat to Martin. Martin feared for his life.
Under Florida law, if you feel your life is in danger, you can use whatever force necessary to save your life.Star Member Warpy (69,964 posts)
28. Too many guns out there are burning holes in too many pockets
They spent umpteen dollars on those things with all the junk to make themselves perfect human hunters, now they wanna know how far they can go having target practice.
They'd be delighted with a Zimmerman acquittal that would declare open season on any other person anywhere as long as they claimed that person "looked suspicious."
And yes, some of them inhabit the gungeon on DU.Star Member JDPriestly (38,743 posts)
47. My suggestion is to allow people to carry their guns and to own guns as they wish, but
if they shoot and kill another person, no matter the circumstances, it's second degree murder just because they killed with a gun.
I think that would cause people to leave their guns at home unless they absolutely believed they faced danger.
I would add that all gun owners should be required to buy extra insurance in case they shoot someone either intentionally or accidentally.
But self-defense should not be permitted as a defense if you killed someone with a gun. There shouldn't be any defenses allowed for a person who kills with a gun. That would reduce the number of murders by firearm very quickly.Star Member JDPriestly (38,743 posts)
64. I think this would discourage people from carrying guns, especially criminals.
They think they won't get caught. I think this would make people like Zimmerman think twice before shooting.Fire Walk With Me (37,963 posts)
59. A friend said that the decision from this trial will be whether or not it's fair game to kill black
people. I tend to agree with his assessment. And his disgust.bravenak (428 posts)
83. Yes, and it makes me sick to my stomach. I want to tell them to wake up! What if it were your kid?
Would it still be justified? Unarmed kid vs. armed adult male, and the gun toting man is the victim?
This is unreal.