07-04-2013, 09:31 AM
May the FORCE be with you!
07-04-2013, 11:37 AM
Here's a good summary, but the critical takeaway is that in any revolution, the transition to power is going to depend on the levels of organization within the revolutionary organizations. Simply put, the best organized, toughest thugs usually win. The American Revolution was unique in that we had a history of self-government and our revolutionaries toughs were also principled republicans who sought to restore self-government, not remake the world. The Egyptians have no history of democratic self rule, and their election, like most in the Arab world, resulted in the toughest, best organized thugs winning the first round, and then setting up a government that perpetuated their control. That's not democratic, it's one-man, one-vote, one-time.
Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.
07-04-2013, 07:17 PM
We don't stop backing him because the military doesn't like him anymore. Do we back the military if they decide to overthrow Hollande tomorrow?Be Not Afraid.
07-04-2013, 11:45 PM
We shouldn't be backing Egypt at all until they clean up their act. They have a history of anti-Semitism, being anti-woman, etc. We shouldn't be giving them a dime of our money.
Ody, just because Egypt has never been a free country in the past doesn't mean they can't be one. Maybe we won't be alive to see it, but I believe in the possibility.
07-05-2013, 12:26 PM
So no...we do NOT have to support him just because Obama made the mistake of doing so in the first place...that is unless you want to send a clear signal that the U.S. is undeniably on the side of terrorists...which is exactly what the MoBros are...and what we'd be doing if we contiued to support that terrorist thug.In Memory Of My Friend 1st Sgt. Tim Millsap A Co, 70th Eng. Bn. 3rd Bde 1st AD...K.I.A. 25 April 2005
Liberalism Is The Philosophy Of The Stupid
To Achieve Ordered Liberty You Must Have Moral Order As Well
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.
07-05-2013, 02:38 PM
Obama's best friend kicked out? I guess his people aren't such his people?
I love my God, my country, my flag, and my troops ....
07-05-2013, 07:20 PM
Originally Posted by trg
I actually think it makes us look weak if pull back support for him now. We didn't do it with the Shah when muzzia mania came to Iran when they grabbed our citizens and they demanded his head in exchange.Be Not Afraid.
07-05-2013, 07:24 PM
Does that stuff really bother you? Then tops on your list should be Saudi Arabia. They think women are pets. And you get arrested for simply carrying a Bible over there. Why are we so cozy with them? They are scum of the earth.Be Not Afraid.
07-05-2013, 07:32 PM
07-05-2013, 07:35 PM
The far left would say that we're buddies with Saudi Arabia because they're compliant with us regarding oil. To a point, I think I still agree with that belief. We should not be supporting Saudi Arabia, any theocracy, or any communist country. We should be supportive when these countries want independence, but we should not be friends with them or give them our financial support.
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